Saturn in Aries 2nd House
Rules the 11th & 12th houses for Pisces ascendant.
Phala Deepika Saturn in 2nd house: “Will give an ugly look, cause one to be without wealth and take an evil path. At a later age he will go to live in a foreign country. He will own vehicle wealth and other luxuries.”
Jataka Bharnam Saturn in 2nd house: “The native lives with other men, is addicted to some evil habit (like drinking), is deserted by his own men, wanders in different countries, gets honour from the king, wealth and conveyance. It often happens that they have to live far away from their family. Their speech is harsh, they are thrifty, there is some possibility of disease of the mouth and they might not be pretty.”
B.V. Raman Saturn in the 2nd house: “Unless exalted or in own house it tends to make earning an uphill struggle. Much work with little gain. Harsh speech, unsocial, sorrowful and roaming about aimlessly, the person comes across many opportunities but seldom takes advantage of them. In family life he will be unhappy. He will gain by dealing with metals, storage, mines, labour, etc. He will be unpopular.”
Chamatkar Chintamani Saturn in the 2nd house: “Leaving behind his family he travels far and wide to obtain every kind of pleasure and success. Far from being sweet to friends, he is irrelevant, unbecoming, unbearable, harsh and bitter in speech. Even then, gain and success through all eight metals, specifically iron and every other luxury in life. To achieve his selfish ends every method is fair. The native is wealthy, poverty through wrath of a higher authority. He is a liar, restless, an imposture, there is loss of wealth through suffering, speech defect, biliousness, phlegmatic, rheumatic. He is base, poor in own country, affluent in foreign countries and a life full of luxury late in life only. If Saturn is in any sign other than Libra, the native is sensual, suffers from it, forsaken by own family members. Settles abroad later in life, gain through royal favour. The native gains from wood, coal, iron, and other base jobs. He practices magic and charm and his sister’s children fail to survive. If aspected by a friendly planet or a benefic, the native is religious, kind, honest and truth loving. Successful when he changes his residence, later on he acquires wealth, conveyance and every means of pleasure but no younger brothers. He is a thief with a great collection, but sweet and soft spoken. The native is a dependent, surrounded by many troubles; own relatives desert him; in the last half of life he migrates to a foreign land where he prospers and enjoys conveyance, recognition and success in life.
The native marries twice, suffers eye trouble, loss through agriculture; he may be the chief of a monetary. If afflicted by a malefic he will cheat women, face an unprofitable up hill struggle and be blunt to the opportunities that come his way. There are many failures for want of money and failures can be avoided to gain success in land, property, produce, mines, storage, investments, minerals, building labour etc. if the directions in which this Saturn in operating are thoroughly accounted for. There is gain from antiques, museum work, uncommon paths, curios etc. A good aspect from Jupiter or Venus or well poised by sign indicates thrift, economy and wise investments. Gain by labour, land, building, farming, heavy trading minerals, transport, public appointments, investments, speculation, responsibility and method.
Saturn protects the traits of the house it is posited in, destroys by aspect. The native earns a living by the sweat of his brow, single marriage and unfriendly to own family members. Interest in social and public works. He is pertinacious, stubborn and careless about own meals and dress. In Aries, Gemini, Leo, or Sagittarius indicates two marriages, progeny, wealth, honour. Absence of accumulation, investment on house property and land., Trouble through over-eating. Success through soft and sweet tone. Trouble through partner, gain through societies. If in Aries, Leo or Sagittarius, gain from going North. If in Taurus, Virgo or Capricorn, from West. In Cancer, Scorpio or Pisces, from the east. And if in Gemini, Libra, Aquarius from the south.“
BPHS 11th lord in the 2nd house: “The native will be endowed with all kinds of wealth and accomplishments, will be charitable, religious and always happy.”
B.V. Raman 11th lord in the 2nd house: “The native will live with his elder brother. Benefics will give harmonious relations. Malefic cause domestic bickering, but common dwelling. The native will earn through commercial concerns and banking ventures. Business with friends can bring big profits, but if excessive malefic influence, these friends can bring big losses.”
BPHS 12th lord in the 2nd house: “The native will always spend money on auspicious deeds, be religious, speak sweetly, and be blessed with virtues and happiness.”
B.V. Raman 12th lord in the 2nd house: “The person will suffer financial losses. He may contact debt and be involved with nefarious activity. He will not eat timely meals. His eyesight will be poor and his family life will be marked by lack of harmony. If the 12th lord is benefic and in dignity these losses will be greatly reduced and the native can achieve financial stability. He will be a tactful speaker. If the 12th lord is badly disposed the native indulges in gossip and quarrelling.”
| Ashwini | Bharani | Krittika |
| Rudolf Kempe (Opera Conductor (4)), | John Lennon (3), Ringo Starr (Beatles drummer (3)), Richard Pryor (stand up comedy, storyteller (1)), | None |
| Saturn 2nd from Moon | Saturn 2nd from Moon | Saturn 2nd from Moon |
| David Koch (Chemical engineer, philanthropist (4)), Chuck Norris (3), Ben English (1), Doc Holliday (dentist, gunslinger, gambler (4)), Veruschka von Lehndorff (1), | Martin Flack (2), Bill Guerin (hockey (4)), Olaf Kolzig (hockey goaltender (1)), Darren Brown (4), Catherine Zeta Jones (1), Ella Bleu Travolta (3), Marie-Soleil Tougas (TV host, killed in plane crash (2)), | None |
Saturn in Aries 2nd house
Lord of 11th & 12th houses for Pisces ascendant.
Dresses in black. Dark intense image. Dark eyes.
Saturn in Ashwini 2nd House
Lord of 11th & 12th houses for Pisces ascendant.
“I dressed all in black and went to see all the top photographers, like Irving Penn, and said, ‘I am Veruschka who comes from the border between Russia, Germany and Poland. I’d like to see what you can do with my face.” — Veruschka von Lehndorff
“I’m not addicted to cocaine. I just like the way it smells.” “There’s nothing worse than being an aging young person.” “What I’m saying might be profane, but it’s also profound.” “There was a time in my life when I thought I had everything – millions of dollars, mansions, cars, nice clothes, beautiful women, and every other materialistic thing you can imagine. Now I struggle for peace.” Sure, I have friends, plenty of friends, and they all come around wantin’ to borrow money. I’ve always been generous with my friends and family, with money, but selfish with the important stuff like love.” — Richard Pryor
“To impress people as much as we would wish, we would first need to successfully adopt each of their value systems.” “When [the magician] clicks his fingers and cards change to the four aces, we know we have experienced sleight of hand. Real magic would not be quite that quick and easy. Real magic would take investment. Real magic would draw you in, and make you nervous.” “I am often dishonest in my techniques … I happily admit to cheating, it’s all part of the game. I hope some of the fun for the viewer comes from not knowing what’s real and what isn’t.” “…there is a fine line between wishing to produce child-like astonishment and treating people like infants.” “We forget our health and comfort and notice a pinching shoe. Much of living well is detaching from our boring stories of pain and shifting focus” — Darren Brown
“Why should I obtain by force that which I can obtain by cheating?” — Doc Holliday
“I’m more insecure than I ever let anyone know, sometimes you protect yourself with this kind of armour that people see more than they see you.” “I believe I was born to breed.” “I came out of the womb wearing make-up!” “I’m a terrible cook.” “I think egg boiling is the hardest thing I’ve ever done, but I can make a tiramisu anytime you want.” “If my revelation of having bipolar II has encouraged one person to seek help, then it is worth it. There is no need to suffer silently and there is no shame in seeking help.” “Being glamorous is about strength and confidence. It’s black and white – dramatic. You have to be strong.” — Catherine Zeta Jones
Very serious, responsible, disciplined approach to finance, savings, stored goods. They very often have nothing and are therefore forced to be frugal. There can be a kind of status anxiety attached to this Saturn as they continually worry about their self worth. They will there for work very hard for most of their lives to prove themselves to be financially independent. They can be out spoken, harsh with their words and possibly more harsh with their silence. They can take some big financial risks and will likely loose. everything before they gain anything. This Saturn delays wealth and make s person work really hard for it; possibly doing illegal or despicable things to make money. Saturns aspect to 3rd house, bring much anxiety over security, possibly worry that others want to take what you have. His aspect to the 8th house slows the cycles of change with tight regulation of resources. But despite doing everything in their power to regulate their stored resources, nature, or all that cannot be controlled will make itself known. Saturn’s aspect to the 11th house restricts friendship connection and makes them fairly dry. Lack of facial expression will be there: stern and serious looking;, resting bitch face, dark features hair and eyes (eyes burning like coal), but a darker face generally speaking, closed off. Their image or face they show to the world would be conservative, conventional, drab, uniform, absolutely nothing fancy, but can be a bit sporty. They don’t often have any real friends, mostly back-stayers or people who want something from you. Nothing comes free.
Free speech. With Saturn they are so often told to be quiet, there are consequences to what you say, losses and gains will be mixed. Trouble to the face, mouth, eyes, and hair. Saturn most specifically affects the teeth when he is in the 2nd house. Poor diet and a lack of family values. Likely has land, horses, tools, and vehicles; tools of the trade.
Rudolf Kempe: Saturn conjunct Venus; no aspects. Mars in Cancer. Opera Conductor. As opera conductor he dressed in a tuxedo, very formal, very nice, very expensive suits. Saturn Mahadasha 1974 – 1993: (See Saturn 9th from Moon.)
— From Moon ——————-
David Koch: Saturn conjunct Jupiter, Mercury & Sun. Hemmed between Mars & Ketu. Mars in Taurus. Saturn Mahadasha Birth – 1958 (age 18): Mercury Saturn: Ketu Saturn: Venus Saturn: Sun Saturn: Moon Saturn: Mars Saturn: (See Saturn 4th house.)
Chuck Norris: Saturn conjunct Venus & Mars; no aspects. Saturn Mahadasha Birth – 1947 (age 7): Mercury Saturn: Ketu Saturn: Venus Saturn: Sun Saturn: Moon Saturn: Mars Saturn: Rahu Saturn: (See Saturn 4th house.)
Doc Holliday: Saturn has no conjunctions or aspects; hemmed by Moon & Mars. Mars in Taurus. Gambler, gunfighter, dentist. Sick for most of his life. Saturn Mahadasha: 1852 – 1871 (Till age 20): He would have studied, rhetoric, grammar, Latin, French & ancient greek in his school . Age 15: Probably Saturn Rahu, his mother died of Tuberculosis. He put more energy into books and study after that. He finished dentistry school shorty after Saturn Mahadasha ended. At age 16 1866 or 67 (Saturn Rahu), his mother died of Tuberculosis. He would have started his studies in dentistry soon after. (See Saturn 5th house.)
Ben English: Saturn aspected by Jupiter. Mars in Cancer. Modelling agency; talent scout for pornography. Mercury Saturn: Ketu Saturn: Venus Saturn 2001 – ‘04: Sun Saturn: (See Saturn 4th house.)
Veruschka von Lehndorff: Saturn conjunct Sun, Mercury & Ketu; sign exchange with Mars in Capricorn. Saturn Mahadasha: (See Saturn in 9th house.)
Saturn in Bharani 2nd House
Lord of 11th & 12th houses for Pisces ascendant.
Free speech. Brings some passion and emotion to the voice. With Saturn they are so often told to be quiet, there are consequences to what you say, losses and gains will be mixed. They will never feel like they have enough money. Problems with the teeth, crude speakers, ugly face, thick course hair, They will not like to spend on anything; just the bare necessities. They might come from a poor family; labour class, hard workers. They can accumulate wealth from foreign sources and may have some undeveloped land, dilapidated buildings, or merely be an absentee landlord. Beneficial aspects can spruce things up, Mars can give industrial lands, Jupiter can give some religious significance, and Venus will give the space some beauty some how,
They might have found themselves hiding in a strange place or closet when they were young.
I would expect quite bad teeth problems with this placement of Saturn. If Sun and Moon are also afflicted, eyesight will be as well. They would speak harshly or poorly, they would have little foresight. Dreamers with little vision for the future. Family may have been grave diggers.
John Lennon: Saturn conjunct Jupiter, aspected by Mars & Mercury. Mars in Virgo. (See 4th from Moon.)
Ringo Starr: Saturn conjunct Jupiter; no aspects; Mars in Cancer. Beatles drummer. (See 10th from Moon.)
Richard Pryor: Saturn conjunct Jupiter; aspected by Mars, Venus & Mercury. Mars in Libra. Saturn & Jupiter are alone on one side of the chart. Race-based stand-up comedy. Venus Saturn: Sun Saturn: Moon Saturn: Mars Saturn: (See 5th from Moon.)
— From Moon ——————-
Bill Guerin: Saturn aspected by Sun, Jupiter, Venus, Mars & Ketu. Mars in Virgo. Hockey player. First 12 years of his life were Saturn period. (See Saturn 12th house.)
Olaf Kolzig: Saturn conjunct Mars, Venus & Mercury; aspected by Jupiter & Ketu. Hockey goaltender. Saturn Mahadasha doesn’t start until 2057. (See Saturn 10th house.)
Darren Brown: Saturn aspected by Ketu. Mars in Scorpio. Mentalist, illusionist. First years of life were Saturn period. (See Saturn in 11th house.)
Ella Bleu Travolta: Saturn conjunct Jupiter & Mars. Saturn Mahadasha 1995 – 2014: (See Saturn in 12th house.)
Marie-Soleil Tougas: Saturn conjunct Sun & Mercury; aspected by Jupiter & Ketu. Mars in Taurus. Actress, TV host, killed in a plane crash in Venus Saturn period. (See Saturn 9th house.)
Catherine Zeta Jones: Saturn aspected by Ketu; Mars in Sagittarius. Saturn Mahadasha Birth – 1986: Mercury Saturn: Ketu Saturn: Venus Saturn: (See Saturn in 6th house.)
Martin Flack: Saturn has no conjunctions or aspects; but is kinda hemmed between all the planets. Physiology, research, lecturer. SA node of the heart; the natural pace maker. Mars in Gemini. Ketu Saturn: Venus Saturn: Sun Saturn: Moon Saturn: Mars Saturn: Rahu Saturn: (See Saturn 8th house.)
Saturn in Krittika 2nd House
Lord of 11th & 12th houses for Pisces ascendant.
Why none?
— From Moon ——————-
Why none?
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