Saturn in Aries Nakshatras: Ashwini, Bharani, Krittika

Saturn in Aries

“It must be remembered that there is nothing more difficult to plan, more doubtful of success, nor more dangerous to manage than a new system. For the initiator has the enmity of all who would profit by the preservation of the old institution and merely lukewarm defenders in those who gain by the new ones.”  “Never was anything great achieved without danger.” — Machiavelli

They tend to be serious people, possibly a little scary to others. You don’t want to get in their way. They might even be a little afraid of themselves.

People who are out there on a limb, pushing themselves to the limits, terrified, but doing it; doing the impossible. They are not usually nice people, but they can get some charm from other planets and they can certainly get things done. They are full of self-doubt, self-criticism, awareness of their many failings, but never quitting. They can be excessively self-reliant and self-going. Rigid; some say stubborn. They do what they want and don’t care about the consequences, they will gladly face them. They become the true trailblazers, they have survived in the toughest environment; they have gone through hell and by later in life they ate absolutely fearless.

They will suffer the consequences from their lack impulse control, but if they have any blessing in life they will learn from this to take on only the most challenging missions in order to gain any kind of satisfaction. I’m not sure if they really care wether they live or die. They can be very self-conscious feeling like they are never enough, a nobody, undeserving, unworthy of anything and will have to work very hard for everything in life.

They tend to resist going deep for any kind of true self knowledge and they certainly do not let others in easily. In their youth they are typically full of fear, self doubt, and worry as everything seems to be life or death. They can also be extremely lazy and apathetic but if they sent on a mission they will tackle it with everything they have. These are the kinds of people that get sent into situations of certain death; but often emerge victorious (or perhaps these are just the ones we hear about).  Their fear of rejection can be strong, and this can cause them to act out in ways that will obviously get them rejected, or they might try to hide in the shadows and never do anything for fear of rejection. They might prefer anonymity, but I’m not sure they will get this. This Saturn will demand that these native sacrifice themselves for others at every opportunity.

They tend to remain fearful of attack, and they may have very strong walls, but these only serve to invite further attack. These natives are typically defiant, disobedient and rebellious: independent to the extreme.  They might feel like there is never enough time, they will manage to remain busy constantly as they wait for the critics, the attack their independence (which many others see as selfishness or stony defiance). Many of them are libertarian or something close to that. They are less likely to make the first move, but if they do have to move: look out.

Part of the reason Saturn doesn’t like Aries is that Saturn is just coming into the light after going through   hell. Saturn is blinded by the light, he see’s his many imperfections, his darkness, shame, guilt; a servant at the command of any other. They can take a lot of suffering and humiliation; it’s shameful what some people put themselves through just to prove themselves. They are not usually very warm people; but it’s too these people some of the most difficult and daunting challenges are addressed. They will be turned to stone in order to complete their mission. Hard bodies that can take a lot of punishment. Many of these natives might be considered morally corrupt, but they often did what they had to do to survive. And they do make good survival guides. Or if you want to know how things really work, talk to them, but it won’t be a rosy perspective. It’s not uncommon to find them on a long impossible journey somewhere. They are very hearty people, and capable of making the most difficult life or death discussions.

They might be afraid to start over even after they have lost everything they will keep pushing. They really can’t take a hint. Possibly some level of autism they doesn’t understand social cues very well. After Saturn matters, their life will begin. These are they guys going to the gym for 6 hours a day, the ones working hard to build their body, becoming hard, become a somebody instead of the nobody they were born as. What makes them dangerous (in a good or bad way) is that they have something to prove.

– Historical Transits of Saturn Ashwini –

Health: The life force is forward and upwards in Aries: Saturn here puts a cap on this life force. Perhaps the Aries relation with the red blood cells allows Saturn in Aries to restrict the oxygen (or prana). Prana is the fire which gives warmth to things and rising them upwards; again, Saturn would restrict these things, making them cold, short and probably a bit weak, easily and often scared, as well as having some trouble with their breathing. But these folks have very strong and determined hearts and will often struggle against anything that restricts their independence. Aries also represents the head so you could say that this Saturn gives them an especially thick skull that will allow them to do anything they put their mind to.

Speaking of the head, they often really do have something wrong with their head: problems starting in the brain are common and they may either be born with or develop brain problems over time. Genetics or accidents can play a significant role in their fate.. Saturn causes dryness, hardness, slowness to the brain and body. Hormonal problems like low dopamine, serotonin, oxytocin, oestrogen, GABA, and endorphins is all possible. They often lack natural reward mechanisms and well as the normal conscience that punished us when we have done wrong. Almost like they have an overdeveloped sense of reason. More heavily afflicted it can lead to the kind of pathology that is the right stuff for an exploitive CEO, or a brutal military leader, fighters and athletes, people on a suicide mission, and self-destructive people. Machiavelli literally has Saturn in Bharani.

Fibromyalgia, delayed satisfaction, lack of pleasure, or enjoyment, lack of bonding with others, mental illness, self-destructive, obsessive compulsive, anxiety, stress, agitation, depression, poor digestion or appetite (thus nutrition), poor breathing, body pain, taboo or pleasure seeking behaviour, blood, heart, lungs, body pain and stiffness. Both extremes of sexual perversity and frigidity (or impotency) can be experienced with this placement. If Rahu or Ketu are also involved, there may be some hormonal imbalance that may take several generations to work itself out.

You can’t expect anything to be easy when Saturn is in Aries. Some kind of physical pain or mental anguish will be a part of their lives they will have to get used to working through. Giving up is not an option.   A well-placed Mars or even just an aspect from Jupiter can bring great success from this Saturn, but even then the feelings of enjoyment of that success may be lacking. They will have to deal with the devil inside of themselves and they tend to meet with the worse side of human nature.

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Saturn in Ashwini 

“The impossible missions are the only ones which succeed.” “I wake up saying, I’m still alive; a miracle. And so I keep on pushing.”  — Jacques Cousteau

“It is not a matter of being fearless. The fear is sometimes constant, but it’s about moving forward regardless of the fear. Courage means feeling the fear and doing it anyway.” “ My default is self-destruction, and anything on top of that is a bloody lot of work” .— Gillian Anderson

“The 3 key components for success are as follows: Psychological Preparedness Physical Conditioning Mental Toughness” — Chuck Norris

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– Ashwini Main Page – Moon Ashwini – Sun Ashwini –
– Mars Ashwini – Jupiter Ashwini –  Saturn Ashwini –
– Historical Transits of Saturn in Ashwini –
– Ashwini on YouTube –

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Old when they’re young, young when they’re old. They will likely have a second childhood in adulthood. Either they get younger with age or they finally take initiative and responsibility for their own life. In many ways these guys can barely function on their own for survival. You can tell because they are on such a mission to prove their independence. They often resist innovation and can be kind stuck in the past.

This tends to make them more conservative, libertarian, independent. But more broadly speaking they like to conserve energy resources, land resources and time. They resist or regulate innovation which can sometimes make them traditionalists who always prefer the old ways, even if they are more difficult. They might feel like they are above the law, or the law doesn’t apply to them, or that they are themselves the law; though they will seek the strict application of law and order against others; especially if they get to dish out the consequences. .

All around them are storms raging and they are just trying to hang on. Impulses will have to be ruthlessly controlled as one would have suffered heavy consequences for not doing so. The might have had to suffer heavy consequences for acting before thinking, therefore the remain resistant against starting anything new unless they have thought it out well. Saturn containing all of this wild energy is sure to build pressure which will likely have to find some kind of dark release.

They tend to stick with their current course out fear and self-doubt. They do not want to take initiative which will challenge the status quo. They have an unusual strength of determination to do what others say is impossible. Several mountaineers and polar explorers have this Saturn; it seems the immovable rock meets unwavering determination. Several of the female stars likewise sacrificed everything as they moved forward in their careers. Chyna was a feminine phenomena in wrestling.

Hunter Schafer has also pushed the boundaries of free speech as part of the caste of Euphoria. It could be said that their spontaneous penetration of boundaries, perhaps even the boundaries of decency seem to be the cause of much concern to others. This Saturn can bring a lot of impatience related with the qualities of the house he’s in. Early life can be really difficult, but they are able to rise above it later in life and gain success. Saturn is not fully debilitated until the next nakshatra 20 degrees Aries.

Hunter Biden who was resistant to the breaking news stories that pummelled his reputation, and he’s unlikely to try anything new.

Saturn in Bharani

Debilitated at 20 degrees Pada 2

“Men are driven by two principal impulses, either by love or by fear.”   “All courses of action are risky, so prudence is not in avoiding danger (it’s impossible), but calculating risk and acting decisively. Make mistakes of ambition and not mistakes of sloth. Develop the strength to do bold things, not the strength to suffer.”  “The vulgar crowd always is taken by appearances, and the world consists chiefly of the vulgar.” — Machiavelli

“The job of a theoretical physicist is to make mistakes as fast as possible.”  — John Archibald Wheeler

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Bharani – Moon in Bharani – Bharani on YouTube –

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Hell bent to get things done. With additional affliction we might associate this with the kind of dark black magic capable of raising up a dark beast that can destroy the world; like nukes. One may be confined by an illness, handicap, servitude or by law from taking initiative. This is a very tamasic placement with harsh consequences for non-compliance. There may be heavy feelings of guilt. Their gatekeeper is very strict and they will be punished for any derivation from the rules; as they grow older, they are likely to become the punisher. They can be lazy and try to make money in easy ways, but this typically backfires and they end up having to do long hard work hours to pay their debts. And this placement has a lot to do with paying off Karmic debts related to your lineage. The best way to pay this off is by accepting the heaviest burden you can find and carrying that. Don’t try to take shortcuts because they will set you back again every time; don’t skip any of the steps.

These loads we have to carry can be the worst kind of work, like dealing with foreign wars, weapons and oil like Dick Cheney; or having to work with nuclear reactors; it might just be chopping wood and carrying water like poor Cinderella. Step-parents, step-sibling, stet-children are likely with this Saturn depending on where it’s placed; the family will be separated by blood-line in some way.

Saturn in Krittika

They can become really tough characters. Life will have a way of testing their endurance, their commitment, their patience. This position is like forging steel. Trial by fire time and time again; heated to incredibly high temperatures and then beaten into form. They often grow up being bullied until they learn to become the bully themselves. But life is not usually easy for them as they are constantly trying to avoid getting burned, while constantly putting their hand in the fire.

They are often weak, of small, or cripple, or helpless in some way; but they put on this tough shell to hide their weakness. This Saturn can affect the brain as well as the whole body. Inspiration does not come easy for them, they are not usually able to connect with god or anyone in a loving way; they are stuck in reality and find it difficult to bring awareness to the higher states of consciousness. The right brain might be less active leaving the left brain to work through all the step by step solutions before coming to a solution. They need time to make critical decisions or work their way through critical missions. They might also freeze and hesitate when the time comes to act. Especially in Aries there can be a fear of taking initiative, they might not even bother trying to start things or take the lead. This makes them followers with much less personal empowerment; it’s a kind of false power or speculative energy. It’s not a true energy source that leads to righteousness.

But often times they work very closely with reality in life or death situations like explosive experts or bomb disposal experts. Many scientists working with volatile substances, criminals who get themselves into volatile situations. They might be working in construction trades in isolated and dangerous environments. They don’t usually have much to do with the arts, or anything that demands finer sentiments; though there are exceptions like Bob Dylan whose Saturn is in exchange with Mars

Saturn will also have his effect on the razor, making it old and dull, possibly stone age tools for cutting. The criticism will be cold, harsh and old; exhausting. The cuts are serious, repetitive. These people might be resistant to criticism, which of course causes it to hurt that much more. Their sense of self worth and Self-confidence can be low.

The work or service environment will feature a lot of heat, fire, cutting machines, steel. heavy equipment. They might work with fire and combustion metallurgy as well. There seem to be many people skilled with explosives, guns, rockets, flares. Even Stephen Hawking is famous for the Big Bang, Elon Musk builds cheap rockets and electric cars, Phineas P. Gage was an old school railway boss working with explosives. And of course The titanic likely fired off every flare they had as it went down.

An interesting point that has been raised through research is that several of these people have had their brains preserved after death. John Wayne Gacy’s brain is apparently in a ziplock bag somewhere. Phineas Gage’s brain is in Harvard. No doubt they will preserve and study Stephen Hawking’s brain after death.

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Celebrities & the 9 Pada of Aries

Celebrities with Saturn in Ashwini

Saturn in Ashwini Pada 1, Aries Navamsha: Dharma Pada. Almost everyone here suffers from mental health problems: bi-polar, suicidal, drug, alcohol, sex addiction, risky lifestyle. A kind of disconnection from their physical body. But they can be hell bent to do what everyone else says you can’t do, or it can’t be done. They are most likely to work alone and stay alone and feel alone. There may be ghostly entities.

Craig Mathieson (polar explorer (1)), Jim Caviezel (actor played Jesus (1)), Ben English (porn agent (1)), Clifford Olsen (serial killer (1)), Patrice Alegre (serial killer (1)), Gillian Anderson (actress, writer, activist (1)), Lupe Valez (actress, singer, dancer (1)), Veruschka von Lehndorff (aristocrat, supermodel (1)), Mariah Carey (singer (1)), Tina Turner (singer (1)), Chyna (female wrestler (1)), Hunter Schafer (transgender model, actress (1)),

Saturn in Ashwini Pada 2, Taurus Navamsha: Artha Pada. People who are insignificant in every way, like, Lee Harvey “I’m just a pattsy” Oswald.. But they have that bull-headedness which combines deep faith and an iron will. They will persevere, and once they set forth on their mission, nothing can stop them. Many of them have real partners, but they are like ghosts.

Pope Pius IX (immaculate conception of Mary, exile (2)), Chuck Norris (martial arts actor (2)), Ted Donato (hockey left wing (2)), Lee Harvey Oswald (killed JFK (2)), Helen Keller (deaf & blind author, lecturer, activist (2)), Alice Bailey (Theosophical Society (2)),

Saturn in Ashwini Pada 3, Gemini Navamsha: Kama Pada. Messengers, news media, provocative journalism. They often work in teams, groups, gangs, tribes and party politics.

Ronald Reagan (actor, President (3)), Ulysses S. Grant (3), Jorge Paulo Lehmann (investment banker, brewer (3)), Bradford Washburn (mountaineer, cartographer, museum director (3)), Robert Bates (mountaineer, author, teacher (3)), Bixente Lizarazu (football/soccer, defense (3)), Tucker Carlson (news commentary (3)), Phillip Adams (provocative journalist, author, film, broadcast (3)), Hunter Biden (Presidents son, grifter (3)), Peter Frost (sick priest (3)), Cate Blanchett (3), Nancy Pelosi (3), Anne Heche (3), 

Saturn in Ashwini Pada 4, Cancer Navamsha:  Moksha Pada. This pada can make a person excessively rich and excessively cruel. They do not have much of a childhood and they had to grow up from a very young age, almost like a child soldier, hard nosed CEO who only sees profit margins and misses the people involved. Most of these people have killed someone and I suspect the others a capable. This brings an inner vibration, discomfort and insecurity. Paranoia might also be there as the rich are constantly afraid that will loose everything. Perhaps they’ve just made too many enemies. ,

Maurice de Rothschild (4), David Koch (Chemical engineer, philanthropist (4)), Prince Joachim of Denmark (Economics, Military Officer (4)), Jacque Cousteau (marine conservation, naval officer, filmmaker (4)), Hugh Armstrong Robinson (pilot, inventor, daredevil (4)), Joseph Mengele (Dr Death: SS physician, experiments (4)), Erik Prince (4), Al Pacino (4), Doc Holliday (dentist, gunslinger, gambler (4)), Frank Abbandando (4), Rob Ford (4), L. Ron Hubbard (4), David Eggers (4), Louis Pasteur (chemist, microbiologist (4)), Matthew McConaughey (4), Rudolf Kempe (Opera Conductor (4)), Ellen Pompeo (Grey’s Anatomy star (4)),///June2024////

Celebrities with Saturn in Bharani

Saturn in Bharani Pada 1, Leo Navamsha: They work really hard to be independent, but they end up loosing themselves, and suppressing creative potential. But they will work hard, against the odds, practice hard, face their fears and triumph. They can easily be hypocrites or even outright liars as they seek the winning formula by any means. It’s not about the truth, but about what sells. Fighters will fix matches, Dick Cheney is famous for lying to start the Iraq war. What is the truth? They will have good endurance. I don’t expect they will be particularly child friendly.

Pope John XXIII (1), Franklin D. Roosevelt (US President (1)), Dick Cheney (Vice President, Defence, Halliburton (1)), Felix von Luckner (naval officer (1)), James Joyce (Avant guard novelist, literary critic (1)), Edward Norton (prison movies (1)), Clay Walker (1), Richard Pryor (stand up comedy, storyteller (1)), Neil Diamond (folk singer (1)), Olaf Kolzig (hockey goaltender (1)), Dana White (UFC President (1)), Bruce Lee (martial arts, early death (1)), Gary Gilmore (murder (1)), Princess Louise of Orleans (1), Mother Teresa (1), Deva Premal (Chanting & mantra singer (1)), Jennifer Lopez (1), Catherine Zeta Jones (1), Virginia Woolf (1), Ghwen Stefani (1), Calamity Jane (1),

Saturn in Bharani Pada 2, Virgo Navamsha: Saturn is fully debilitated here at 20 degrees Aries. Their level of logic can be deadly. Where’s the heart? The compassion? Is it a touch of autism or sadism that makes them this way. The fear of death can be debilitating. Perhaps this keeps them fighting in a winner takes all kinda way. I don’t think they could imagine sacrificing themselves for a higher good; it’s just not reasonable.

Machiavelli (2), Rutherford Hays (lawyer, President (2)), Alexander Fleming (physician, discovered penicillin (2)), Peter Paul Rubens (2), Picasso (2), Martin Flack (2), Melania Trump (2), Uma Thurman (2), Karla Homolka (serial Killer (2)), Marie-Soleil Tougas (TV host, killed in plane crash (2)),

Saturn in Bharani Pada 3, Libra Navamsha: Exalted in Navamsha. Saturn typically gives good results since they are likely to have a partner to go thru hell with and those commitments will be all the firmer for it. Lots of addictive tendencies here. This Saturn probably also sets them up for trust issues, because there are a number of relationships troubles and infamous fights with friends, work partners, colleagues. They work so hard to be free and independent, but also wan to work with someone else. It can bring on again, off again kinda relations; hot and then cold.

Benjamin Franklin (3), John Lennon (3), Jackson Pollock (3), Ted Cruz (3), Antoni Gaudi (architect (3)), Bobby Hatfield (singer (3)), Martin Sheen (3), Alex Trebek (Jeopardy (3)), Ringo Starr (Beatles Drummer (3)), Waldemar Rosler (illustrator, painter, lithographer (3)). Pranaal Baba (3), Lance Alworth (3), Robert Buell (serial killer (3)), Naomi Campbell (3), Dore Hoyer (dancer (3)), Ella Bleu Travolta (3), Anna Steel (3),

Saturn in Bharani Pada 4, Scorpio Navamsha: There must end up being some guilt for death, some very dark secrets or even Top Secret information. Safety and security. They are not likely to change much over the course of their lives

John Archibald Wheeler (Physics, nuclear reactors (4)), Werner Von Braun (aerospace engineer (4)), Gottfried von Leibniz (4), Stonewall Jackson (4), Vincent van Gogh (4), Roy Rogers (4), Bill Guerin (hockey (4)), Darren Brown (4), Morgan Spurlock (Super-size Me (4)), Ginger Rogers (4), Patsy Willard (olympic diver (4)),////5sept24////

Celebrities with Saturn in Krittika

Saturn in Krittika Pada 1, Sagittarius Navamsha: They might lack social inhibition allowing them to do or say almost anything.

Stephen Hawking has Lou Gehrig’s disease which attacks the nervous system causing muscle weakness, cramps or twitching. It often goes on to affect speech and swallowing. Muhammed Ali developed Parkinson’s disease which also affects speech and motor coordination. In 1980 it was reported that Ali had a small hole in the outer layer of his brain. Phineas P. Gage had an iron bar blast a hole through his skull and destroy most of the frontal lobe on the left side of the brain in an industrial accident. He survived for 12 more years but became crude and loosing all social inhibition.

Stephen Hawking (1), Michael Bloomberg (business, New York Mayor (1)), Bob Dylan (singer, songwriter (1)), Alfred Elton van Vogt (1), Muhammed Ali (1), Matt Damon (actor (1)), Pavel Bure (hockey, Russian rocket (1)), Phil Esposito (hockey (1)), Phineas P. Gage (1), Bernardine Dohrn Ayer (radical communist (1)), Claudia Schiffer (1), Shannen Doherty (1),///04sept24////

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Saturn in Aries 1st house

Rules the 10th & 11th houses for Aries ascendant.

Phala Deepika Saturn in 1st house: “Causes one to be afflicted with sorrow and misery from early childhood and is sure to suffer from poverty and want. He is untidy and indolent.”
Jataka Bharnam Saturn in 1st house: “If Saturn is exalted or in own sign the native becomes the king of his country or his own city, but in any other sign he is unfortunate, diseased and devoid of wealth. The disease will affect that part of the body represented by the sign.”
B.V. Raman Saturn in the 1st house: “Foreign customs will be easily copied and imitated. If Saturn is not afflicted there will be much concern for others. Self-confidence is normally justified. Moral stability will also be marked. The disposition is calm, grave and serious. The body will be weak and emancipated. Progress in any venture will be slow but certain. There may come an aversion for responsibility. This position makes habits inactive. Loss through negligence and lack of opportunity are possible. The same results will be noticed when Saturn aspects the ascendant. Misfortune is likely in the early part of life.”

Chamatkar Chintamani Saturn in the 1st house: “The native has plenty of wealth, unabated greed. Discontented, quarrelsome, unhappy, crude. Poisonous glance; mental agony, bilious, jealous. The native is rich, has regrets, disputes, destroys the strongest enemies but is dissatisfied, perturbed, angry, Saturn-like looks, jealous of others property and victims of various ailments. The native is sick, sexy, gloomy, lazy, faces various ailments in childhood.
If Saturn is in it’s own sign, exalted or in Sagittarius, Pisces the native is affluent like a king, chief of the village or town; learned, a scholar, handsome, long-lived and charming. In other signs the results are similar to those of the Sun, there is trouble in the nose, illusions, heart-burning, trouble in the womb and joints, biliousness, chill, pain in the private parts, under-arm and body pains. Respiratory problems if Saturn is afflicted. If it is unfavourable, trouble due to poverty, own acts, evil spirits, devils and thieves. Saturn is very troublesome causing total ruin. This Saturn can kill the enemy just by his poisonous looks. If afflicted by the Moon, they will live only by the mercy of others; but this is modified if aspected by a benefic. If well-placed by sign or aspect the native is contemplative and considerate, discrete, prudent, systematic, diligent, frugal, intimate, attentive, quiet, sincere, and serious, loves merit, thoughtful, growth and success are slow but sure. Afflicted Saturn indicates trouble and sickness in the part of the body represented by the sign it’s in. Their temperament is subtle, acquisitive, penetrative, careful, secretive, and sometimes gloomy and discontented. There is loss through sickness, misfortune and delays. Generally these natives are deficient in Phosphate and Calcium. They are given to nervousness, timidity, and diffidence in youth; boldness from middle age. The native with Saturn in Aries, Leo, Sagittarius, Cancer, Scorpio or Pisces prefers service and gets promotion after pursuing seniors. Fortune smiles on him by retirement time. There is only one marriage; sons are few or none but many daughters. He has large but weak eyes, commanding speech, authoritative look if in Aries, Leo or Sagittarius.. There is trouble through the family, strife with partner, two marriages, sensual, ailing partner, early death of parents (Longevity to parents if in Libra). He is best by age 56 but suffers economic loss in the 25th and 31st year. Marriage is denied or the partner fails to survive if afflicted by Venus. Wealth and sons do not go together. Trouble through business. Accidents, sudden death or imprisonment if afflicted by Mars. Wicked and deprived if it conjoins Moon. Good natured in Aries, Cancer, Leo, Scorpio, Sagittarius, Pisces.”

Jataka Bharnam “Moon & Saturn conjunct allows the native to enjoy sex with many women, lovers and prostitutes. They have a guilty disposition, mixed blood and are devoid of manliness. They do agriculture or labour work and often take part in local elections and may be successful. In a female, this conjunction in the 7th house will give menstrual irregularities and in a male chart they might lack interest in sexual intercourse.”

BPHS 10th lord in the 1st house: “The native will be learned, famous, a poet. Will incur disease in childhood but be happy later. Wealth will increase day by day. For Aries ascendant this Saturn will have an adverse effect on health and wealth. He will be troubled by headaches and there will be a diminution of longevity.”
B.V. Raman 10th lord in the 1st house: “The native rises by sheer dint of perseverance. He will seek a profession of independence, they become famous, a pioneer in his field of work, and he may found an institution or engage himself in social projects.”

BPHS 11th lord in the 1st house: “The native will have a sattvic nature, be rich, happy, even sighted, a poet, eloquent in speech, and always endowed with gains.”
B.V. Raman 11th lord in the 1st house: “The native will be born into a rich family and he will earn much wealth. The strength of this planet will relate with the level of family wealth: very rich, fairly rich or merely well-to-do. He will lose an elder brother later in life.”

Ashwini	Bharani	Krittika
Ulysses S. Grant (3), Jorge Paulo Lehmann (banking, investing (3)), Erik Prince (security, mercenary equity investment (4)),	Stonewall Jackson (4), Lance Alworth (3),	None
Saturn conjunct Moon	Saturn conjunct Moon	Saturn conjunct Moon
Ronald Reagan (3), Phillip Adams (provocative journalist, author, film, broadcast (3)), Patrice Alegre (serial killer (1)), Cate Blanchett (3),	Jackson Pollock (3), Roy Rogers (4), Virginia Woolf (1), Karla Homolka (2),	Bob Dylan (1), Phil Esposito (1),

Saturn in Aries

Tall, slim, sinewy, no excess fat on the system. Serious temperament, quiet reserved nature, introverted in early life. Shy, full of self doubt, probably bullied and teased just enough for them to build up a powerful “I’ll show them attitude.” They can be fairly strong and athletic despite their slimness. They are battle hardened, tough as nails. Perseverance, persistence, stubbornness, powerful inner will. They often do the work of ten men all by themselves. They will never give up. But they also internalise a lot of pain, suffering and hardship. Since all of this is going on in the ascendant, this toughness shows and they are not usually they kinds of people anyone wants to mess with. Serious, scary dudes.

With the moon it seems like they truly and honestly don’t care about anything. As Ron once said, “Mike, my give-a-fuck is broken; it’s finished. I couldn’t care less.” Depravity can easily result, some kind of self destructive tendency is likely. The soul is dead, the body has been used and abused and nothing much really matters. They can use this energy to do pioneering work, to silence the doubters.

Saturn in Ashwini 1st House

Lord of 10th & 11th houses for Aries ascendant.

They are ready serious people, extremely determined, but they have to work through a lot of self-doubt. They can be intimidating hard to get to know them. Health problems are certain with this mix of vata & pitta. May have suffered from complications at the time of birth and the native may have been near death. Dark, blue skin, very skinny; skin and bones, overly serious, dull dry personality, dark blotchy complexion. They are likely to suffer from ill health, poor personality, unattractive, very low confidence, pessimist, worrier. Illnesses that affect the brain and the whole body. They are likely to suffer from lack of impulse control and lack of morals; a debauchee. Almost like Mr. Burns from the Simpsons.

Ulysses S. Grant: Saturn conjunct Sun & Jupiter; aspected by Ketu. Mars in Leo. Brigadier general. Two terms as President. Throat cancer. About 5’8”. First 17 years of life were Saturn Mahadasha. Serious temperament, quiet reserved nature, introverted. He did not like school; he liked horses and was a great rider from a young age. His father was a tanner and businessman. In 1829 his family moved to Ohio. In 1839, probably right at the end of Saturn Mahadasha, he entered West Point Military Academy. Mercury Saturn: Ketu Saturn: Venus Saturn: (See Saturn 10th from Moon.)

Erik Prince: Saturn conjunct Venus; no aspects. Mars in Scorpio. Navy SEAL and security contractor: founder of Blackwater (now Academi). About 6’0” Saturn Mahadasha 1996 – 2015: His father died in 1995, he sold his father’s auto parts store and Founded Blackwater Security services. In 1997, he purchased a piece of swamp land in Florida for training. His Venus Sun & Moon, operating under Saturn Saturn period, are all pretty good for land and real-estate. In 2001 (possibly Saturn Ketu), he started taking contracts from the CIA. In Sept. 2007 (Saturn Moon Saturn), his men opened fire on civilians in Iraq. They were tried and convicted in 2014 (Saturn Jupiter). Over the 15 years he owned Blackwater, he managed billions in contracts from the government and CIA. He resigned as CEO on Mar. 2, 2009 (Saturn Mars) and sold the business in late 2010 (Saturn Rahu). He then moved to Abu Dhabi where he maintains a second home to this day. In Jan. 2011 (Saturn Rahu) he was training a Somali force for anti-piracy missions. He now heads a private equity firm, likely after Mercury period started. (See Saturn 3rd from Moon.)

Jorge Paulo Lehmann: Saturn conjunct Ketu, aspected by Mars. Making sign exchange with Mars in Capricorn. Investment banker, businessman, and former tennis player with dual Brazilian and Swiss citizenship. Average height, about 5’10”. Saturn Mahadasha 1991 – 2010: This was a period of self-discipline, long term strategic planning, with Saturn bringing additional focus to his personal heath and to the safety and security of his family. Although Saturn in Aries can be fairly bull -headed in its drive forward and up, the exchange with Mars in Capricorn bring more strategic influence and pushing power for him to attain the great height in the business world that he did. From 1991 to 2010, Lemann’s life events show a pattern of significant personal decisions (like moving to Switzerland) and professional restructuring (like selling Banco Garantia), reflecting Saturn’s need for security, discipline, and pioneering new paths. Lemann, along with his partners Marcel Telles and Beto Sicupira, founded the NGO Fundação Estudar, aimed at providing leadership and entrepreneurship training to Brazilian youth and funding their education abroad. In 1994 he suffered. Heart attack. 1998: Banco Garantia, which Lemann co-founded, was sold to Credit Suisse First Boston for $675 million. Mar. 1999: An attempted kidnapping of his children led Lemann to relocate permanently to Switzerland for safety reasons. They were likely saved by the bullet proof glass protecting the chauffeur. 2004: Lemann, along with his partners, founded 3G Capital to invest in American companies, marking a significant expansion of their investment scope. April 2005: his first wife passed away. He remarried soon after this. 2008: 3G Capital and Interbrew merged with Anheuser-Busch to form AB InBev, the world’s largest brewer, for $52 billion. Sept. 2010: 3G Capital acquired Burger King for $4 billion, further expanding their portfolio into fast food. (See Saturn 4th from Moon.)

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Ronald Reagan: Saturn conjunct Moon & Rahu with Jupiter aspecting. Mars in Sagittarius. He moved into national politics, was elected president and finished his second term with Alzheimer’s. (See Saturn in 4th house.)

Phillip Adams: Saturn conjunct Ketu & Moon, aspected by Mars. Kind hemmed by Sun & Jupiter.; making exchange with exalted Mars. Provocative journalist, author, film, broadcast. Sun Saturn 1952 – ’52: “My first memories were my mother … absolutely dependent on the begging bowl – that little round dish with a piece of cloth at the bottom where parishioners would put a couple of bob. When dad went off to the war, I was taken up by my grandparents … and lived on a dirt-poor farm … I lived in penury for the first 10, 15 years of my life. … Mother dumped [my father] in favour of a rather sleazy businessman … a sociopath who tried to murder me … I spent the latter part of my childhood trying to protect my mother from this psycho.” Moon Saturn 1959 – ’61: He was working in advertising around this time. Mars Saturn 1967 – ’68: He was getting in the film industry. The following year he was part of the team that produced “Jack and Jill: A Postscript” Rahu Saturn 1977 – ’80: He was deeply involved with the Australian film industry in this period. He played a significant role in the revival of the Australian film industry, including his involvement with the Australian Film and Television Development Corporation. He would have been part of the cultural and artistic scene, contributing to influential films and helping to shape the national film policy. In 1977 he released his book, “The Unspeakable Adams.” His career as a social commentator would have been strengthening. Jupiter Saturn 1992 – ’95: already the host of “Late Night Live,” an influential ABC Radio National program which he began hosting in 1991. His show became known for its in-depth discussions on various topics, including politics, science, culture, In 1992, Adams was appointed an Officer of the Order of Australia (AO) for his service to the Australian film and television industries. In 1995, he publicly argued against Section 18C of the Racial Discrimination Act 1975, advocating for public debate over legal censure regarding expressions of racial hatred. He was married to his 2nd wife, and aboriginal woman, at this time. (See Saturn 10th house.)

Cate Blanchett: Saturn conjunct Moon; no aspects. Mars in Scorpio. Venus Saturn 1987 – ’90: In her late teens, early 20s she worked in a nursing home, then studied Business Administration for a bit, but during a trip to Egypt she took a part as an extra, as a cheer leader in a movie and when she retuned to Australis, she enrolled at the Institute of Dramatic Arts graduating in 1992 with a BFA. Sun Saturn 1997 ’98: She acted in her feature film in 1997. She got married on Dec. 29, 1997. Her husband and marriage is probably the most conventional thing about her. She came to international prominence for her portrayal of Queen Elizabeth I in the period drama Elizabeth (1998), for which she received her first Academy Award nomination. One critic wrote: “conveys with grace, poise and intelligence that Elizabeth was a wily, decisive, advanced thinker.” Moon Saturn: 2004 – ’06: She starred in the aviator in 2004. Her and her husband purchased a gothic style home and renovated it. They put it on the market in 2015; not sold in 2017 for almost double what they paid. I think he husband is into real estate. 2006: This was a really busy period for her: she took a theatre role staring as Hedda Gabler in the Ibsen play of the same name. Hadda is newly married and already bored with both her marriage and her life. She is the daughter of a General. She wants luxury but has no money. In Babel she was part or a grieving couple in Morocco. She was in The Good German and Notes on a Scandal where she played the role of a teacher who has an obsessive affair with a 15 year old student. Mars Saturn 2012 – ’14: She worked on the Hobbit Trilogy for these years. Rahu Saturn 2022 – ’25: (See Saturn in 10th house.)

Patrice Alegre: Saturn conjunct Moon, aspected by Jupiter. Mars in Gemini. Serial killer: brutal rape, murder. (See Saturn in 11th house.)

Saturn in Bharani 1st House

Lord of 10th & 11th houses for Aries ascendant.

Deep seated sense of self-doubt along with a strong sense of having to go at it alone. Determination despite all odds. They have to prove themselves. The person gets no respect and must work very hard in their life to prove themselves. But this Saturn can cause them to doubt themselves as if they are really a nobody. High likelihood that they had step-mothers and they lived out their adult lives recreating the cruelty and emotional detachment felt from their step-family. Cold in the face of death; would do nothing to actually help save anyones life. They have usually looked long and hard at the fear of death. Depression and anxiety, heavy feeling go guilt and shame, drug or alcohol addiction is possible, suicide seems to be attempted by many of these natives. There can be paranoia or perhaps people really are taking shots at you. They feel like a slave, no matter what they do, they can’t get any respect.

Stonewall Jackson: Saturn aspected by Mars & Rahu; Mars in Virgo. He was also known to a be a friend to the black slaves in his area. Although teaching them to read and write were against the law, he did so, and many of them fled to Canada afterwards. Died at age 40 from gunshot wounds. 6’0” (See Saturn in 8th from Moon.)

Lance Alworth: Saturn conjunct Jupiter; no aspects. Mars in Cancer. American football player: quick, unnecessary roughness. Saturn Maharashtra doesn’t begin until 2032. 6’0” (See Saturn 10th from Moon.)

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Roy Rogers: Saturn conjunct Moon & Rahu; aspected by Sun, Jupiter & Mercury. Mars in Taurus. Cowboy actor. (See Saturn in 4th house.)

Jackson Pollock: Saturn conjunct Moon & Rahu; no aspects, but kinda hemmed between Sun & Mars. Mars in Taurus. Depression, alcoholism, and social awkwardness. (See Saturn in 6th house.)

Virginia Woolf: Saturn conjunct Moon & Jupiter; no aspects. Mars in Gemini. Died by suicide age 59 by drowning. Bi-polar, periods of deep depression, several suicide attempts, sexual abuse during her childhood by her half-brother and as a young woman, gay. The following Saturn periods coincide with the more severe mental breakdowns. Ketu Saturn 1884 -’85: She was only two years old when her mother, a model & early feminist, died. Her half-sister also died young. Strong period of detachment and loss. Venus Saturn 1899 – ‘1902 (Age 17 – 20): a period of sexual liberation. Sun Saturn 1909 – 10: She was involved in the Bloomsbury Group and beginning her career as a writer. She was seeking to express herself but was faced with many limiting factors. She probably faced several challenges in personal expression. Self-doubts in her work and criticism was likely a strong force. Moon Saturn 1917 – 1918: Nervous breakdown, increasing mental health challenges. Mars Saturn 1925 – ’26: Her groundbreaking novel Mrs. Dalloway was published in 1925, which was a significant achievement in her literary career. In 1925, she had a severe breakdown, and she spent time in a psychiatric institution. Her relationship with Leonard Woolf also came under strain, though they remained together. Rahu Saturn 1935 – ’37: In 1936, she suffered another bout of depression and spent time recovering. It was only a few years later that she filled her pockets with sand and waded into the river to end her life. (See Saturn 12th house.)

Karla Homolka: Saturn conjunct Sun, Moon, Mercury; aspected by Jupiter & Ketu. Mars in Taurus. Serial Killer, sex killings, including her own sister, bisexual. Ketu Saturn: Venus Saturn: Sun Saturn: Moon Saturn: Mars Saturn: Rahu Saturn: (See Saturn 5th house.)

Saturn in Krittika 1st House

Lord of 10th & 11th houses for Aries ascendant.

Why none?

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Bob Dylan: Saturn conjunct Moon; no aspects, but hemmed by Ketu and Jupiter and making exchange with Mars in Aquarius. Venus Saturn: Sun Saturn: Moon Saturn: Mars Saturn: Rahu Saturn: Jupiter Saturn: Saturn Mahadasha: (See Saturn 9th house.)

Phil Esposito: Saturn conjunct Moon & Mars, aspected by Rahu. Hockey legend: played center. Venus Saturn: Sun Saturn: Moon Saturn: Mars Saturn: Rahu Saturn: (See Saturn 5th house.)

 

Saturn in Aries 2nd house

Rules the 11th & 12th houses for Pisces ascendant.

Phala Deepika Saturn in 2nd house: “Will give an ugly look, cause one to be without wealth and take an evil path. At a later age he will go to live in a foreign country. He will own vehicle wealth and other luxuries.”

Jataka Bharnam Saturn in 2nd house: “The native lives with other men, is addicted to some evil habit (like drinking), is deserted by his own men, wanders in different countries, gets honour from the king, wealth and conveyance. It often happens that they have to live far away from their family. Their speech is harsh, they are thrifty, there is some possibility of disease of the mouth and they might not be pretty.”

B.V. Raman Saturn in the 2nd house: “Unless exalted or in own house it tends to make earning an uphill struggle. Much work with little gain. Harsh speech, unsocial, sorrowful and roaming about aimlessly, the person comes across many opportunities but seldom takes advantage of them. In family life he will be unhappy. He will gain by dealing with metals, storage, mines, labour, etc. He will be unpopular.”

Chamatkar Chintamani Saturn in the 2nd house: “Leaving behind his family he travels far and wide to obtain every kind of pleasure and success. Far from being sweet to friends, he is irrelevant, unbecoming, unbearable, harsh and bitter in speech. Even then, gain and success through all eight metals, specifically iron and every other luxury in life. To achieve his selfish ends every method is fair. The native is wealthy, poverty through wrath of a higher authority. He is a liar, restless, an imposture, there is loss of wealth through suffering, speech defect, biliousness, phlegmatic, rheumatic. He is base, poor in own country, affluent in foreign countries and a life full of luxury late in life only. If Saturn is in any sign other than Libra, the native is sensual, suffers from it, forsaken by own family members. Settles abroad later in life, gain through royal favour. The native gains from wood, coal, iron, and other base jobs. He practices magic and charm and his sister’s children fail to survive. If aspected by a friendly planet or a benefic, the native is religious, kind, honest and truth loving. Successful when he changes his residence, later on he acquires wealth, conveyance and every means of pleasure but no younger brothers. He is a thief with a great collection, but sweet and soft spoken. The native is a dependent, surrounded by many troubles; own relatives desert him; in the last half of life he migrates to a foreign land where he prospers and enjoys conveyance, recognition and success in life.

The native marries twice, suffers eye trouble, loss through agriculture; he may be the chief of a monetary. If afflicted by a malefic he will cheat women, face an unprofitable up hill struggle and be blunt to the opportunities that come his way. There are many failures for want of money and failures can be avoided to gain success in land, property, produce, mines, storage, investments, minerals, building labour etc. if the directions in which this Saturn in operating are thoroughly accounted for. There is gain from antiques, museum work, uncommon paths, curios etc. A good aspect from Jupiter or Venus or well poised by sign indicates thrift, economy and wise investments. Gain by labour, land, building, farming, heavy trading minerals, transport, public appointments, investments, speculation, responsibility and method.

Saturn protects the traits of the house it is posited in, destroys by aspect. The native earns a living by the sweat of his brow, single marriage and unfriendly to own family members. Interest in social and public works. He is pertinacious, stubborn and careless about own meals and dress. In Aries, Gemini, Leo, or Sagittarius indicates two marriages, progeny, wealth, honour. Absence of accumulation, investment on house property and land., Trouble through over-eating. Success through soft and sweet tone. Trouble through partner, gain through societies. If in Aries, Leo or Sagittarius, gain from going North. If in Taurus, Virgo or Capricorn, from West. In Cancer, Scorpio or Pisces, from the east. And if in Gemini, Libra, Aquarius from the south.“

BPHS 11th lord in the 2nd house: “The native will be endowed with all kinds of wealth and accomplishments, will be charitable, religious and always happy.”

B.V. Raman 11th lord in the 2nd house: “The native will live with his elder brother. Benefics will give harmonious relations. Malefic cause domestic bickering, but common dwelling. The native will earn through commercial concerns and banking ventures. Business with friends can bring big profits, but if excessive malefic influence, these friends can bring big losses.”

BPHS 12th lord in the 2nd house: “The native will always spend money on auspicious deeds, be religious, speak sweetly, and be blessed with virtues and happiness.”

B.V. Raman 12th lord in the 2nd house: “The person will suffer fi.nancial losses. He may contact debt and be involved with nefarious activity. He will not eat timely meals. His eyesight will be poor and his family life will be marked by lack of harmony. If the 12th lord is benefic and in dignity these losses will be greatly reduced and the native can achieve financial stability. He will be a tactful speaker. If the 12th lord is badly disposed the native indulges in gossip and quarrelling.

Ashwini	Bharani	Krittika
Rudolf Kempe (Opera Conductor (4)),	John Lennon (3), Ringo Starr (Beatles drummer (3)), Richard Pryor (stand up comedy, storyteller (1)),	None
Saturn 2nd from Moon	Saturn 2nd from Moon	Saturn 2nd from Moon
David Koch (Chemical engineer, philanthropist (4)), Chuck Norris (3), Ben English (1), Doc Holliday (dentist, gunslinger, gambler (4)), Veruschka von Lehndorff (1),	Martin Flack (2), Bill Guerin (hockey (4)), Olaf Kolzig (hockey goaltender (1)), Darren Brown (4), Catherine Zeta Jones (1), Ella Bleu Travolta (3), Marie-Soleil Tougas (TV host, killed in plane crash (2)),	None

Dresses in black. Dark intense image. Dark eyes.

Saturn in Ashwini 2nd House Lord of 11th & 12th houses for Pisces ascendant.

“I dressed all in black and went to see all the top photographers, like Irving Penn, and said, ‘I am Veruschka who comes from the border between Russia, Germany and Poland. I’d like to see what you can do with my face.” — Veruschka von Lehndorff

“I’m not addicted to cocaine. I just like the way it smells.” “There’s nothing worse than being an aging young person.” “What I’m saying might be profane, but it’s also profound.” “There was a time in my life when I thought I had everything – millions of dollars, mansions, cars, nice clothes, beautiful women, and every other materialistic thing you can imagine. Now I struggle for peace.” Sure, I have friends, plenty of friends, and they all come around wantin’ to borrow money. I’ve always been generous with my friends and family, with money, but selfish with the important stuff like love.” — Richard Pryor

“To impress people as much as we would wish, we would first need to successfully adopt each of their value systems.” “When [the magician] clicks his fingers and cards change to the four aces, we know we have experienced sleight of hand. Real magic would not be quite that quick and easy. Real magic would take investment. Real magic would draw you in, and make you nervous.” “I am often dishonest in my techniques … I happily admit to cheating, it’s all part of the game. I hope some of the fun for the viewer comes from not knowing what’s real and what isn’t.” “…there is a fine line between wishing to produce child-like astonishment and treating people like infants.” “We forget our health and comfort and notice a pinching shoe. Much of living well is detaching from our boring stories of pain and shifting focus” — Darren Brown

“Why should I obtain by force that which I can obtain by cheating?” — Doc Holliday

“I’m more insecure than I ever let anyone know, sometimes you protect yourself with this kind of armour that people see more than they see you.” “I believe I was born to breed.” “I came out of the womb wearing make-up!” “I’m a terrible cook.” “I think egg boiling is the hardest thing I’ve ever done, but I can make a tiramisu anytime you want.” “If my revelation of having bipolar II has encouraged one person to seek help, then it is worth it. There is no need to suffer silently and there is no shame in seeking help.” “Being glamorous is about strength and confidence. It’s black and white – dramatic. You have to be strong.” — Catherine Zeta Jones

Very serious, responsible, disciplined approach to finance, savings, stored goods. They very often have nothing and are therefore forced to be frugal. There can be a kind of status anxiety attached to this Saturn as they continually worry about their self worth. They will there for work very hard for most of their lives to prove themselves to be financially independent. They can be out spoken, harsh with their words and possibly more harsh with their silence. They can take some big financial risks and will likely loose. everything before they gain anything. This Saturn delays wealth and make s person work really hard for it; possibly doing illegal or despicable things to make money. Saturns aspect to 3rd house, bring much anxiety over security, possibly worry that others want to take what you have. His aspect to the 8th house slows the cycles of change with tight regulation of resources. But despite doing everything in their power to regulate their stored resources, nature, or all that cannot be controlled will make itself known. Saturn’s aspect to the 11th house restricts friendship connection and makes them fairly dry. Lack of facial expression will be there: stern and serious looking;, resting bitch face, dark features hair and eyes (eyes burning like coal), but a darker face generally speaking, closed off. Their image or face they show to the world would be conservative, conventional, drab, uniform, absolutely nothing fancy, but can be a bit sporty. They don’t often have any real friends, mostly back-stayers or people who want something from you. Nothing comes free.

Free speech. With Saturn they are so often told to be quiet, there are consequences to what you say, losses and gains will be mixed. Trouble to the face, mouth, eyes, and hair. Saturn most specifically affects the teeth when he is in the 2nd house. Poor diet and a lack of family values. Likely has land, horses, tools, and vehicles; tools of the trade.

Rudolf Kempe: Saturn conjunct Venus; no aspects. Mars in Cancer. Opera Conductor. As opera conductor he dressed in a tuxedo, very formal, very nice, very expensive suits. Saturn Mahadasha 1974 – 1993: (See Saturn 9th from Moon.)

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David Koch: Saturn conjunct Jupiter, Mercury & Sun. Hemmed between Mars & Ketu. Mars in Taurus. Saturn Mahadasha Birth – 1958 (age 18): Mercury Saturn: Ketu Saturn: Venus Saturn: Sun Saturn: Moon Saturn: Mars Saturn: (See Saturn 4th house.)

Chuck Norris: Saturn conjunct Venus & Mars; no aspects. Saturn Mahadasha Birth – 1947 (age 7): Mercury Saturn: Ketu Saturn: Venus Saturn: Sun Saturn: Moon Saturn: Mars Saturn: Rahu Saturn: (See Saturn 4th house.)

Doc Holliday: Saturn has no conjunctions or aspects; hemmed by Moon & Mars. Mars in Taurus. Gambler, gunfighter, dentist. Sick for most of his life. Saturn Mahadasha: 1852 – 1871 (Till age 20): He would have studied, rhetoric, grammar, Latin, French & ancient greek in his school . Age 15: Probably Saturn Rahu, his mother died of Tuberculosis. He put more energy into books and study after that. He finished dentistry school shorty after Saturn Mahadasha ended. At age 16 1866 or 67 (Saturn Rahu), his mother died of Tuberculosis. He would have started his studies in dentistry soon after. (See Saturn 5th house.)

Ben English: Saturn aspected by Jupiter. Mars in Cancer. Modelling agency; talent scout for pornography. Mercury Saturn: Ketu Saturn: Venus Saturn 2001 – ‘04: Sun Saturn: (See Saturn 4th house.)

Veruschka von Lehndorff: Saturn conjunct Sun, Mercury & Ketu; sign exchange with Mars in Capricorn. Saturn Mahadasha: (See Saturn in 9th house.)

Saturn in Bharani 2nd House Lord of 11th & 12th houses for Pisces ascendant.

Free speech. Brings some passion and emotion to the voice. With Saturn they are so often told to be quiet, there are consequences to what you say, losses and gains will be mixed. They will never feel like they have enough money. Problems with the teeth, crude speakers, ugly face, thick course hair, They will not like to spend on anything; just the bare necessities. They might come from a poor family; labour class, hard workers. They can accumulate wealth from foreign sources and may have some undeveloped land, dilapidated buildings, or merely be an absentee landlord. Beneficial aspects can spruce things up, Mars can give industrial lands, Jupiter can give some religious significance, and Venus will give the space some beauty some how,

They might have found themselves hiding in a strange place or closet when they were young.

I would expect quite bad teeth problems with this placement of Saturn. If Sun and Moon are also afflicted, eyesight will be as well. They would speak harshly or poorly, they would have little foresight. Dreamers with little vision for the future. Family may have been grave diggers.

John Lennon: Saturn conjunct Jupiter, aspected by Mars & Mercury. Mars in Virgo. (See 4th from Moon.)

Ringo Starr: Saturn conjunct Jupiter; no aspects; Mars in Cancer. Beatles drummer. (See 10th from Moon.)

Richard Pryor: Saturn conjunct Jupiter; aspected by Mars, Venus & Mercury. Mars in Libra. Saturn & Jupiter are alone on one side of the chart. Race-based stand-up comedy. Venus Saturn: Sun Saturn: Moon Saturn: Mars Saturn: (See 5th from Moon.)

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Bill Guerin: Saturn aspected by Sun, Jupiter, Venus, Mars & Ketu. Mars in Virgo. Hockey player. First 12 years of his life were Saturn period. (See Saturn 12th house.)

Olaf Kolzig: Saturn conjunct Mars, Venus & Mercury; aspected by Jupiter & Ketu. Hockey goaltender. Saturn Mahadasha doesn’t start until 2057. (See Saturn 10th house.)

Darren Brown: Saturn aspected by Ketu. Mars in Scorpio. Mentalist, illusionist. First years of life were Saturn period. (See Saturn in 11th house.)

Ella Bleu Travolta: Saturn conjunct Jupiter & Mars. Saturn Mahadasha 1995 – 2014: (See Saturn in 12th house.)

Marie-Soleil Tougas: Saturn conjunct Sun & Mercury; aspected by Jupiter & Ketu. Mars in Taurus. Actress, TV host, killed in a plane crash in Venus Saturn period. (See Saturn 9th house.)

Catherine Zeta Jones: Saturn aspected by Ketu; Mars in Sagittarius. Saturn Mahadasha Birth – 1986: Mercury Saturn: Ketu Saturn: Venus Saturn: (See Saturn in 6th house.)

Martin Flack: Saturn has no conjunctions or aspects; but is kinda hemmed between all the planets. Physiology, research, lecturer. SA node of the heart; the natural pace maker. Mars in Gemini. Ketu Saturn: Venus Saturn: Sun Saturn: Moon Saturn: Mars Saturn: Rahu Saturn: (See Saturn 8th house.)

Saturn in Krittika 2nd House Lord of 11th & 12th houses for Pisces ascendant.

Why none?

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Why none?

Saturn in Aries 3rd house

Rules the 1st & 12th houses for Aquarius ascendant.

Phala Deepika Saturn in 3rd house: “Will make a man sharp, liberal in giving gifts, and contented with his own wife. He will, however, be inactive and suffer from grief.”

Jataka Bharnam Saturn in 3rd house: “The person will get honour from government, have excellent conveyance, be chief of a village, valorous and supporter of many people. Ill-will, aversion and separation from one’s brothers. Slow in executing plans and less income from trade establishments than expected.”

B.V. Raman Saturn in the 3rd house “Brave and courageous, wealthy, loss of brothers, eccentric and cruel. Sorrow through brothers; honoured by rulers, the head or president of local boards, municipalities, etc. He will protect many people. He attains success only after he suffers disappointment and reverses. The tendency of the mind is toward gloom, anxiety and misgivings. The mental condition improves with age. If afflicted, the despondency is likely to run into mental affliction.”

Chamatkar Chintamani Saturn in the 3rd house: “The native with Saturn in the 3rd house feels mental agony through relatives and business. Many fruitless efforts and wide differences with own people. Lots of trouble and disturbances before gain. Soft & sweet. His hopes and longing never let him feel completely happy. Discontented with all the esteem and hospitality; ungrateful and harsh. The native is never satisfied with all the profits he makes. Encounters many difficulties before success. He is unkind and wicked to friends but wise and brave. He fosters friends and foes alike and gets government honour. Chivalrous and magnanimous, but has an absence of brothers. He is abstinent, wealthy, of noble descent, adept and merits. This Saturn is Maraka for younger brothers. With all the affluence he is lazy and melancholy. Increase of friends, gain of wealth and loss of younger brothers are the other results. The native struggles for fortune, gains through social, and has differences with relatives and in his association with menials. He is averse to work & religion, popular amongst women, revered in government circles, chief of the town or village and has many attendants. This Saturn denotes mental affliction and sinfulness. Gain and promotion of brothers if Saturn is exalted or in own sign. If associated with a malefic there is discord between brothers.

If strong by position or aspect, denotes responsibility, tact, diplomacy, power to contemplate, logic, rational mindedness, concentration, interest in philosophy, studies and writings. If afflicted, much discord and strife with everybody; given to hypocrisy, and treachery, deceitful, fits of passion, perverted, want of culture, dishonest tendencies, despondent. This native is much disappointed and gets annoyance through trouble, loss and delay in education, relatives, neighbours, travelling and changes. His early life is full of gloom, acquisitiveness, anxiety, restlessness and misgivings. His mental condition is modified with age.

Is favourable if in Aries, Leo, Sagittarius, Cancer, Scorpio or Pisces. In masculine signs he is inimical to brothers and sisters, early children but a few may fail to survive. If in feminine signs there is coldness between brothers and separation between them, disputes over financial affairs and children later in life; good education and develops self confidence; financial loss after marriage if in Virgo or Libra. Industry, ability and thought power fail. In Cancer it denotes trouble to parents. Acute poverty if in own signs. Much travelling if in a water sign. The native is greedy, cruel and wicked. Good for longevity and the native shows mental control, steady thinking, concentration and orderly reasoning.”

BPHS 1st lord in the 3rd house: “Equal to a lion in valour, will have all kinds of wealth, will be horrible, have two wives and be intelligent and happy. The native will be enterprising, and will have the courage to face any situation. The faculties of the body flourish, he will need more nutrition and his diet will need to be richer. When the ascendant is Gemini, the native becomes an aesthetic toward earning money from about the age of 40 – 45 as his vitality and strength become decayed.”

B.V. Raman 1st lord in the 3rd house: “Makes one highly courageous, fortunate, respectable, two wives, intelligent and happy. When well positioned, the natives rise in life will be brought about by his brothers. He may become famous as a musician or a mathematician depending on the nature of the sign and the planets involved.”

BPHS 12th lord in the 3rd house: “The native will be devoid of fraternal happiness, will have hatred for other people and will promote self nourishment and be self centred.”

B.V. Raman 12th lord in the 3rd house: “He will be timid and quiet. Loss of brother is shown. He will be shabbily dressed. If afflicted by malefic he may develop ear ailments. He may have to spend much money on younger brothers. As a writer he may be unsuccessful. He may work in some common-place job and earn very little. If conjunct the 2nd lord and aspected by Jupiter they may have more than one wife.”

Ashwini	Bharani	Krittika
Ellen Pompeo (Grey’s Anatomy star (4)), Frank Abbandando (4),	Patsy Willard (olympic diver (4)),	…….
Saturn 3rd from Moon	Saturn 3rd from Moon	Saturn 3rd from Moon
Pope Pius IX (2), Prince Joachim of Denmark (Economics, Military Officer (4)), Erik Prince (Mercenary Commander (4)), Helen Keller (2), Gillian Anderson (1),	Benjamin Franklin (3), Dick Cheney (Vice President, Defence, Halliburton (1)), Gottfried von Leibniz (4), Alex Trebek (Jeopardy (3)), Morgan Spurlock (Super-size Me (4)), Deva Premal (1), Ginger Rogers (4), Patsy Willard (olympic diver (4)),	……

Saturn in Ashwini 3rd House

Fraternal bliss is destroyed, they are fearful with a nervous temperament, nervous hands, hidden gestures, rough hands. They might find themselves stuck away from home or locked out of their own home.

Frank Abbandando: Contract killers for the mob: Murder inc. His preferred method was to stab the victims through the heart with an ice pick. He was executed in Sing Sing Prison by electric chair. He had 11 brothers and sisters, but six did not survive childhood. As a child he started extorting money from businesses by threatening to burn the place down. He had no limits of depravity.

Pope Pius IX: “Atheism in legislation, indifference in matters of religion, and the pernicious maxims which go under the name of Liberal Catholicism are the true causes of the destruction of states; they have been the ruin of France. Believe me, the evil I denounce is more terrible than the Revolution, more terrible even than The Commune. I have always condemned Liberal Catholicism, and I will condemn it again forty times over if it be necessary.”  “Socialism, Communism, clandestine societies, Bible societies… pests of this sort must be destroyed by all means.”

Erik Prince: “Every individual who has worked for Blackwater in Iraq has previously served in the U.S. military or as a police officer. Many were highly decorated. And from the beginning, these individuals have been bound by detailed contracts that ensure intensive government direction and control.”  “I represented everything Democrats loathed.”  “We’re trying to do for the national ­security apparatus what FedEx did for the postal ­service.” “I can relate to ranchers and roughnecks and professional game guides and farmers and homemakers.”

Saturn in Bharani 3rd House

Debilitation causes the destruction of 3rd house indications. Fraternal bliss is destroyed. They can be incredibly tightly strung people whose nerves are always on edge. They should work with things rather than people. Their hands tend to be big, rough, hard. There may be some greater debilitation of the hands, arms, shoulders, lungs, upper back. Of course almost every problem with Saturn in Aries starts in the brain.

Gottfried von Leibniz: “I do not believe that a world without evil, preferable in order to ours, is possible; otherwise it would have been preferred. It is necessary to believe that the mixture of evil has produced the greatest possible good: otherwise the evil would not have been permitted. The combination of all the tendencies to the good has produced the best; but as there are goods that are incompatible together, this combination and this result can introduce the destruction of some good, and as a result some evil.” “It’s easier to be original and foolish than original and wise.” “Nature does not make leaps.”   “What is is what must be.”

Deva Premal: “I read once that the voice is a mirror of our inner being. I can very much relate to that because, when you sing, you feel very exposed. You feel like you can’t hide anything. But then it also works the other way round and, when we work on our voice, our inner being also changes.”

Ginger Rogers: “The only way to enjoy anything in life is to earn it first.”

Saturn in Krittika 3rd House

Debilitation causes the destruction of 3rd house indications. Fraternal bliss is destroyed. They can be incredibly high and tightly strung people whose nerves are always on edge. They should work with things rather than people. Their hands tend to be big, rough, hard and likely burn by the fire. There may be some greater debilitation of the hands, arms, shoulders, lungs, upper back. Of course almost every problem with Saturn in Aries starts in the brain.

Saturn in Aries 4th house

Rules the 1st & 2nd houses for Capricorn ascendant.

Phala Deepika Saturn in 4th house: “Will make the native live an unhappy homeless life without any conveyance, deprived of his mother and sickly during early life.”

Jataka Bharnam Saturn in 4th house: “Weakens the native due to excess bile and wind, the person has a wicked disposition, is lethargic, quarrelsome, weak and dirty. The native constructs a house far from place of birth and has an interest in farming, working with iron, taking part in politics, The person might live in a paternal property with great inconvenience, face mental anguish due to slander, trouble from animals. The person remains full of anxiety, lethargic, worried. Adverse effects can be predicted for the natives mother as well.”

B.V. Raman Saturn in the 4th house: “Sickly during early years; deprived of mother and unhappy; suffers from windy and phlegmatic complaints; lethargic temperament; will not inherit any property; will have troubles from house and vehicles; disliked by relatives; desire to live a very secluded life; unfavourable for domestic family affairs, unless beneficially aspected or associated.”

Chamatkar Chintamani Saturn in the 4th house: “The native is not blessed with patrimony, movable or immovable. Bad name through brothers, brethren and relatives for nothing. Loss of property and conveyance. Source of trouble for parents. Suffers biliousness. He has unbearable mental torture from false allegations and criticism of the brothers and relatives. There is fear through cattle wealth, causes distress to parents and constant bile problems. He does not enjoy health and had gain through enemies, much sorrow, worry and separation. There exists anxiety, insensible, mental affliction, powerlessness, and emaciated. 4th house denotes happiness: Saturn in 4th destroys this. The native is always unhappy, loss of home, honour and mother. The native himself being good lives with bad and wicked people. Brothers and sisters steal away his wealth and he has heart problems, long nails and hair on the body.

If Saturn is progressed, the relative suffers loss of life. If retrograde, wife, children, and attendants suffer loss of life. The native migrates to another village but gains no happiness. He is crafty and immoral and has neither home nor status. The native suffers loss of mother, and lives without happiness of wealth with his step-mother. If Saturn is exalted or in own sign, these results are not seen. If Saturn is the lord of lagna, the mother lives long and the native enjoys good fortune. If Saturn conjoins the lord off the 8th, the native suffers loss of mother and much trouble besides.

Saturn denotes difficulties and trouble through property, legacy or mines, acquisitiveness, denial of worldly success, contrary domestic and family affairs, little success against heavy odds, responsibilities without reward, asceticism at the close of life and lack of interest in worldly affairs. Well aspected or dignified Saturn bestows property, gain through produce and mines.

Saturn in masculine sign indicates favourable results. It is good for government service if in Aries, Cancer, Leo, Libra, Sagittarius, Scorpio, Pisces, Gemini and also denotes magistrate or sub-judge, teacher, chance of 2nd marriage.

The native is generally large hearted, quiet, sober, lofty, patient, not avaricious, just, virtuous, hospitable, donor, generosity leading to poverty in old age but still does not turn from benevolence. A large number of children of this Saturn is in Aries, Leo, Sagittarius, Cancer, Scorpio, or Pisces. Few children if in Gemini, Libra or Aquarius. Two or three if in Taurus, Virgo or Capricorn.

Death of young and well settled son. Loss of wealth. Fortune after accumulated wealth. Gain or success after 36 till 56. Adopted son, access in foreign land. West is favourable for Saturn in Taurus, Virgo, or Capricorn. North for other signs. Success and gain in the 16, 22, 24, 27 and 26th years; physical pain in 8, 18, 22, 28, 40 and 52nd years.”

BPHS 1st lord in the 4th house: “Blessed with maternal and paternal happiness, many brothers, lascivious, lusty, virtuous and charming. They will take care of their body, adorn it and always seek to improve their personality. They tend to be emotionally sensitive.” Vahana Yoga: 1st lord in the 4th, 9th, or 11th house: “The person comes to own vehicles or other material comforts.”

B.V. Raman 1st lord in the 4th house: “There will be happiness from parents, many brothers, materialistic, well built, fair looking and well behaved. With benefice aspects he will acquire considerable landed properties, especially through maternal sources. He will be rich, happy, famous and commands a number of conveyances.”

BPHS 2nd lord in the 4th house: “The native is endowed with all kinds of wealth. If conjunct Jupiter of in exaltation the native will be equal to a king. The native particularly invest his money in articles of pleasure and luxury and therefore must possess much wealth.”

B.V. Raman 2nd lord in the 4th house: “The results of 2nd lord in the 3rd house will apply as well as the following. He will spend money for his own happiness. He will be highly frugal when dealing with money. If well-fortified he will earn well as an automotive dealer or agent, or agriculturist, or landlord, or commission agent. He will also be benefited by his maternal relations There will be loss on this account if the 4th lord is afflicted.”

Ashwini	Bharani	Krittika
Ronald Reagan (3), David Koch (Chemical engineer, philanthropist (4)), Chuck Norris (2), Ben English (1),	John Archibald Wheeler (Physics, nuclear reactors (4)), Roy Rogers (4), Martin Sheen (3), Mother Teresa (1),	Matt Damon (1),
Saturn 4th from Moon	Saturn 4th from Moon	Saturn 4th from Moon
Maurice de Rothschild (4), Jorge Paulo Lehmann (3), Craig Mathieson (polar explorer (1)), Hunter Biden (3),	Machiavelli (2), Dana White (UFC President (1)), John Lennon (3), Gary Gilmore (murderer (1)), Uma Thurman (2),	Michael Bloomberg (business, New York Mayor (1)), Muhammed Ali (1),

Saturn in Ashwini 4th House

“A nation that cannot control its borders is not a nation.” Ronald Reagan

“Men are like steel. When they lose their temper, they lose their worth.” “If some thug breaks into my home I can use my roundhouse kick, but I prefer he look down the barrel of my gun.” — Chuck Norris

Strongly Identified with the land, the nation, the home. Conservation of natural resources, and local cultures. Strong borders, strong boundaries, stone walls. The land is likely hot and infertile, possibly pasture land, ranching. The home is a place of work, building foundations and belonging to the land, to the place by hard experience. Cowboys, hard strong people, firmly ground in the local culture, an icon. Mostly libertarian.

Resistant to any new movements in the home, in the local culture. Possible fear of home invasion. Wealth might be invested in land and fixed assets in a way that makes liquid wealth rather hard to come by sometimes. On the other hand, wealth may be stored in the home itself or it may be buried in the back yard.  It does support house and land and horses. The house itself may be just a protective shelter, a place of work, cold and lonely; just a house; not a home.  Punitive upbringing, harsh rules in the home brings fear. It may be a stone house, but not a very nice one. Stone-wall, harsh boundaries, few are allowed in. Strong family values. They might have hereditary or genetic health issues that affect the whole body since the lord of 1st and 2nd house is debilitated and aspects the 3rd house giving chronic illness.

David Koch: Saturn conjunction Jupiter, Mercury & Sun. Hemmed between Mars & Ketu. “I’m basically a libertarian, and I’m a conservative on economic matters, and I’m a social liberal.”

Ronald Reagan: Saturn conjunct Moon & Rahu with Jupiter aspecting. “Government is not a solution to our problem, government is the problem. … Government does not solve problems; it subsidizes them. Government’s view of the economy could be summed up in a few short phrases: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. If it stops moving, subsidize it. … The problem is not that people are taxed too little, the problem is that government spends too much.”  “The nine most terrifying words in the English language are “I’m from the government, and I’m here to help.” Saturn Mahadasha 1974 – 1993: Around the start of this period he resigned for state politics and focused on national politics. Nov. 20, 1975 (Saturn Saturn Venus) he announced his candidacy. Nov. 13, 1979 (Saturn Mercury Saturn) he campaigned for republican leader and easily won in July 1980 (Saturn Ketu). The presidential campaign followed. On Nov. 4, 1980 (Saturn Ketu Rahu) he won the election and was sworn in  Jan. 20, 1981 (Saturn Ketu Saturn). On March 30, 1981 (Saturn Ketu Mercury), Reagan was shot in the chest. One of his campaign managers got shot in the head. His first term the economy plunged into recession in 1982; he hired the Chicago school of economics to fix it. They used shock doctrine. The War on Drugs was full power. Oct. 19, 1983 (Saturn Venus Saturn) he ordered the invasion of Grenada. But even with all the problems, he won a second term by a landslide in Nov. 1984 (Saturn Sun Jupiter). By 1986 he had removed almost half the federal regulations which existed when he was first elected. In nov. 1986 the Iran Contra Affair started to break. In 1987 he replaced Volcker with Greenspan to fix the economy. Greenspan raised interest rates and triggered the stock crash of 1987.  By the time he left the presidency in Jan. 1989 he was mostly senile. He remained active for a couple of years but it was soon announced that he had Alzheimer’s.

Saturn in Bharani 4th House

Home is a place of death, of duty, of hard work that never comes to an end. Something is constantly coming up, there is never any relaxation, just anxiety, doubting their sense of belonging, seeds are unable to take root. Heavy affliction could have them living directly on the cremation ground,  There is very little security or comfort from the home, mother is unable to carry out her duties leaving the person anxious inside. They might not have really had much of a childhood, having to work from a young age. Some of these natives had heavy duties or chores in the house from a young age, others had to work as dancers, actors, musicians, work work work. Of course, this is not a safest environment for a child. They will no doubt have many experiences of their safety of security being challenged before they will build solid walls with hopes of keeping everyone out of their personal life. But there will always be some kind of invasion of the home. Perhaps they will just learn to keep nothing of value in the home. There are not a lot of comforts or amenities, just there necessities and half off them are broken. Primitive home: maybe they are just never home so the dust accumulates. Or maybe they grow up in the slums or in the hood, hard rocky or even concrete land. There can be house, land, properties, hostels, animals in the house, or people living like animals. This Saturn doesn’t necessarily restrict these 4th house things, it just doesn’t give much attachment or satisfaction from home, school, mother or any of these 4th house things.

These people often become swaggering cowboy style libertarians, libertines, somewhat more disposed to indulge in sensual pleasures than Ashwini placements. They have their guards up. Fear of being attacked in the home which leads them to imposes a heavy handed order in the home for the need of security. Mother can be especially punitive and strict and there can be a lack of comfort and security in the home; a strong sense of restriction and possibly a duty to care for the mother or the parents generally. They will face difficulty in foundational education and early university studies.Most of these natives will not be educated, but if they stick with it they can  Mars position will say much about the home, but this Saturn will have a negative effect on the cleanliness of the home,

Roy Rogers: Shortly after he was born, his father and uncle built a house boat from scrap lumber and sailed the family down the Ohio river for a better life. They purchased some land, and then, because of the Great Flood of 1913 (Ketu Saturn) they were able to park the houseboat on the land and continue living in it even after he waters receded. When he was 8 years old they purchased another farm and built a six room house where the family would hold square dances. But it was shortly after this that the Great Depression began. In 1955 (Mars Ketu) he and his wife Evans purchased a 168 acres in Texas and then expanded to 300 acres. But after their child died in a bus accident in 1964 (Rahu Saturn), they moved to the RR Apple Valley ranch which was a horseshoe shaped hacienda with a stone roof. His mother was part Native American.

Martin Sheen: His father was a factory worker, the family grew up fairly poor. He had an in with his left arm In 1989 (Moon Saturn) he was made honorary mayor of Malibu, California; he declared the town a “nuclear free zone, a sanctuary for aliens and the homeless, and a protected environment for all life, wild and tame.” This wasn’t very popular with all the locals.

Mother Teresa: Saturn conjunct Rahu, aspected by Moon Saturn Mahadasha: She moved to India at teh beginning  Cold in the face of death and suffering. “Depression surrounds me on all sides – I can’t lift my soul to God – no light or inspiration enters my soul . . . Heaven, what emptiness – not a single thought of Heaven enters my mind – for there is no hope. . . The place of God in my soul is blank.” “People say they are drawn closer to God – seeing my faith. Is this not deceiving people? Every time I have wanted to tell the truth – that I have no faith.”

John Archibald Wheeler: “‘Participant’ is the incontrovertible new concept given by quantum mechanics. It strikes down the ‘observer’ of classical theory, the man who stands safely behind the thick glass wall and watches what goes on without taking part. It can’t be done, quantum mechanics says it…May the universe in some sense be ‘brought into being’ by the participation of those who participate?”  “Time, among all concepts in the world of physics, puts up the greatest resistance to being dethroned from ideal continuum to the world of the discrete, of information, of bits…. Of all obstacles to a thoroughly penetrating account of existence, none looms up more dismayingly than ‘time.’ Explain time? Not without explaining existence. Explain existence? Not without explaining time. To uncover the deep and hidden connection between time and existence … is a task for the future.” 

Saturn in Krittika 4th House

They are unclean and unhappy. They might be surrounded by wealth and nice home, but they are just a mistreated servant keeping the fires burning. Might live in a coal or iron yard. Mother is likely poor, illiterate and mean: tough as nails; hard as iron. They might have grown up in a family of poor itinerant farmers accustomed the harsh reality of changing seasons. They might be like feudal slaves attached to the land but having none for themselves. Of course wealthy people with lands and factories, and business get attached to a bunch of stuff that they don’t actually want. But their sense of comfort and security is so persistently undercut that they are eventually left with no choice but to fight back; to insist on their identity, to defend their boundaries, to stake their claim. Of course there is something of the swagging free cowboy. It seems to be pretty good for the kind of person who has everything but is till not happy. The Sun rulership of Krittika seems to rise them up without giving them much faith that the foundation is secure. They are caught in cycles of 6th house blame and accusation, they end up putting much of their effort into work as a way of both avoiding the troubled home life, while also exacerbating the lack of security and sense of belonging..

Saturn in Aries 5th house

Ashwini – Bharani – Krittika
The Classics – Saturn in Aries 5th house
Rules the 2nd & 3rd houses for Sagittarius ascendant.

Phala Deepika Saturn in 5th house: “Will make a person roam about bereft of children, wealth and happiness. He will be crooked and evil-minded.”

Jataka Bharnam Saturn in 5th house: “Makes the native weak bodied, constantly suffering from some disease, devoid of wealth, semen, happiness and children. The native lives in a hostel for his education, and may study electronics. His intelligence follows science and reality. Fertility will be diminished.”

B.V. Raman Saturn in the 5th house: “Evil-minded and stupid; sickly and weak; poor and hated by others. This combination denotes sorrows through children. Fortune will be variable; he will have a hypocritical nature. Quarrels with friends and relatives and sorrow in domestic life.”

BPHS 2nd lord in the 5th house: “The native will be wealthy and his sons will be intent on earning wealth.”

B.V. Raman 2nd lord in the 5th house: “Hating family, sensual, not spending money even on children, lacks manners or etiquette. If well-fortified there will be unexpected acquisition of wealth through lotteries, crosswords or the favour of rulers.”

BPHS 3rd lord in the 5th house: “The native will be blessed with sons and be worthy. If conjunct or aspected by malefic planets, one’s partner will be of cruel nature. When the 3rd lord is debilitated here, one’s partner is of especially cruel nature and without religion. The native does not get a son and if one is born it’s likely to die. He will also get mental troubles due to his brother. If the 3rd house is related to the 5th house, the native is accomplished in physics or engineering because of the combination between the hands and the mind. Drawing, painting as well as education related to arms and weapons may also result.”

B.V. Raman 3rd lord in the 5th house: “Not much pleasure will be derived from children but one will be financially well-off in life. Friction will prevail in domestic life. If well disposed the native will be highly benefited by his brothers. He will carry on agriculture operations on a large scale or he will be adopted by a rich family. He will also shine well in government service.”

Ashwini	Bharani	Krittika
Doc Holliday (dentist, gunslinger, gambler (4))	Machiavelli (2), Pope John XXIII (1), Gottfried von Leibniz (4), James Joyce (Avant guard novelist, literary critic (1)), Olaf Kolzig (hockey goaltender (1)), Naomi Campbell (3), Calamity Jane (1), Ghwen Stefani (1), Karla Homolka (serial killer (2)),	Phil Esposito (1),
Saturn 5th from Moon	Saturn 5th from Moon	Saturn 5th from Moon
Lee Harvey Oswald (killed JFK (2)),	Pope John XXIII (1), Johnathan Wheeler (nuclear reactors (4)), Neil Diamond (1), Richard Pryor (stand up comedy, storyteller (1)), Robert Buell (serial killer (3)), Melania Trump (2),	Matt Damon (1),

Saturn Ashwini 5th House

Education related to arm and weapons. Gamblers who may risk everything. Not good for children or wealth. Doc Holliday & Lee Harvey Oswald are interesting in that the myths of them as being gunslingers  is now believed to be merely myth. In both cases it was someone else who shot most of the people ascribed to them.

Doc Holliday: A dentist, gunslinger, gambler. Saturn Mahadasha: 1852 – 1871 (Till age 20): He would have studied, rhetoric, grammar, Latin, French & ancient greek in his school . Age 15: Probably Saturn Rahu, his mother died of Tuberculosis. He put more energy into books and study after that. He finished dentistry school shorty after Saturn Mahadasha ended.

Lee Harvey Oswald: Saturn Mahadasha:

Saturn in Bharani 5th House

They have a dark, tumultuous and dangerous way of getting what they want. Their courage can help them to face life or death They will likely avoid having children of their own and they may not be able. They are not much fun, or rather, what they do for fun is very hard work on long term projects.

They bring their dark, crude, common language to centre stage. Very little expressiveness, poor diet, step-children or adopted children. They can be unoriginal and uninspiring but perhaps still find some appeal to the masses through fire and brimstone. Usually considered fairly dry gruff people. All they have is the podium that props them up; and it could be nothing more than a soap box; though beneficial placement can give nicer decoration. Casts dark shadows over their face, reduces fertility. Having their own children is unlikely; especially for women.

Naomi Campbell: Saturn conjunction Mercury, aspected by Jupiter & Ketu. She studied dance from age 3 – 16. She is not a nice person. In  Sept. 1993 her modelling agency dropped her saying “no amount of money or prestige could further justify the abuse.” She was accused of assault 11 times between 1998 – 2009, but only convicted 4 times.

Pope John XXIII: Conjunct Jupiter, aspected by Venus & Mercury. This Saturn probably helped influence his decision to join the secular Franciscan Order at a young age,

Gottfried von Leibniz: Saturn Mahadasha

Saturn in Krittika 5th House

 These natives usually do not want children and may be unable. shyness, they are often humiliated in the spotlight,

Saturn in Aries 6th house

Ashwini – Bharani – Krittika
The Classics – Saturn in Aries 6th house
Rules the 3rd & 4th houses for Scorpio ascendant.

Phala Deepika Saturn in 6th house: “Makes the native a glutton, wealthy, vanquished by the enemy, stubborn but with a strong sense of self respect. Native develops neurotic troubles.”

Jataka Bharnam Saturn in 6th house: “The native conquers his enemies, appreciates the qualities of the other person, obeys the commands of brahmins, has a strong body, strong digestion and good appetite. This Saturn is considered auspicious, they do not fear thieves, profit from cattle, instil fear in their enemies, obtain prosperity, and many followers and attendants as well as kindness from the king. One suffers from windy disease. A weak Saturn with malefic influence hare can bring very inauspicious effects: difficulties in profession and losses to servants.”

B.V. Raman Saturn in the 6th house: “Quarrelsome; obstinate; voracious eater; foe-less; courageous. If afflicted, one gets sick due to privation or neglect; troubles through subordinates. If Mars is the afflicting planet, dangerous illness and operations. If Rahu afflicts, the person suffers from hysteria. Well aspected denoted gain through contract work, mining, masonry, etc.”

Chamatkar Chintamani Saturn in the 6th house: “The native has nothing to fear from enemies, thieves or even the king. A matchless warrior, contrary and combative. Blessed with cattle wealth. Trouble through maternal uncles. He is well known, generous, and prosperous, but not without some trouble. Fond of merit, noble, a protector, strong and healthy with a good appetite. He is recognised by enemies, blessed with sons and has respect for the learned. He is sensual, can face heavy odds and has plenty of attendants and followers. The native is robust, healthy, powerful, fortunate with much pleasure, jewellery, conveyance in life. He is learned, rich, happy, free from enemies, a favourite of the government, loving wife and lucky sons. The native has few relatives or brethren. He annihilates his enemies and possesses growing wealth.

If Saturn is weak by sign or placement the native is denied progeny and will remain weak and the enemy will be mean; in other signs he is triumphant. If in own sign or exalted the native will be a good writer, wealthy, lustful and potent with a charming personality. With a well placed Saturn he will have no enemies. The native may suffer from diabetes and/or venereal disease, but he will be brave and intelligent.

If Mars conjoins there will be much travelling abroad, makes a poor raja yoga, effort is fruitless,  happiness is denied, but the native will be industrious. If Saturn is lord of the 8th there will be losses, biliousness and much pain and suffering from wounds. This native has to pass through many ailments that are beyond his control: privation, want, or neglect leading to sorrow and disappointment. If afflicted by the luminaries incurable disease like rheumatism. The trouble point is typically indicated by the sign Saturn is in. There is loss and trouble attendant, menials, animals, accidents and operations; circulatory problems, indigestion and debility.

Exalted or well aspected Saturn indicates strenuous or sitting work. Masonry or cement, sculpture, agriculture, excavation; gain and success through attendants. Favourable if in Aries, Leo, Sagittarius, Gemini, Cancer, Scorpio, or Pisces.

There will be trouble and hinderance early in life and no help or support from any quarter. Much criticism and little gain after much work and effort. He gains through cattle wealth and takes premature retirement due to sickness. He will face economic hardship in old age; wealth, authority and fame do not come all together. In a fire sign there will be rheumatism. In an earth sign there will be heart trouble. In a water sign there will be diabetes and urinary trouble; better health after marriage.”

BPHS 3rd lord in the 6th house: “Inimical to brother, very wealthy, enmity with maternal uncle but love for maternal aunt.”

B.V. Raman 3rd lord in the 6th house: “Hates brothers and relatives and has difficulty through them, becomes rich, maternal relatives will suffer. Accepts illegal gratifications. If well disposed, the younger brother joins the army. One of the brothers becomes a successful physician. If the 6th lord also conjoins, the native becomes either a sportsman, physical cultures, or an athlete. If the 6th and 3rd are both afflicted he will suffer from diseases and be tormented by enemies and he will himself be deceitful.”

BPHS 4th lord in the 6th house: “The native will be given to wrath and theft, he will have a questionable character, be self-willed and vicious. This is a very inauspicious placement for any ascendant. Disputes over land, quarrels with tenants and people living in his house, and diminished popularity. Vehicle accident is common. These natives are often adopted. For Taurus ascendant debilitated Sun will cause a great lack of happiness, dejection, mother will not be well disposed and one remains sickly. The same will happen in Scorpio ascendant when Saturn is debilitated in 6th: the native will suffer great misery and sad consequence. Exalted Mars in 6th house: is said to be the only exception to this suffering.”

B.V. Raman 4th lord in the 6th house: “Short-tempered and mean. He will have dissimulating habits, evil thoughts and intentions. Always roaming about.” Kuhu Yoga: 4th lord in the 6th, 8th or 12th house: “The native will be bereft of mother, conveyances, friends, happiness, ornaments, relations. The person will be unemployed and without a place of living having lost the one owned by him or her associating with low people of the opposite sex.”

Ashwini	Bharani	Krittika
Ulysses S. Grant (3), Robert Bates (mountaineer, author, teacher (3)), Hunter Biden (3), Lee Harvey Oswald (killed JFK (2)), L. Ron Hubbard (4), Hunter Schafer (transgender model, actress, artist (1)), Gena G. (3),	Felix von Luckner (nobleman, naval officer, author (1)), Dana White (UFC President (1)), Bruce Lee (1), Jackson Pollock (3), Edward Norton (1), Gary Gilmore (murdered, executed (1)), Catherine Zeta Jones (1),	None
Saturn 6th from Moon	Saturn 6th from Moon	Saturn 6th from Moon
Al Pacino (Actor (4)), Jim Caviezel (actor played Jesus (1)), Bixente Lizarazu (football/soccer, defense (3)), Ellen Pompeo (Grey’s Anatomy star (4)),	Alexander Fleming (biologist, penicillin (2)), Vincent Van Gogh (4), Picasso (2), Naomi Campbell (3), Jennifer Lopez (1),	Bernardine Dohrn Ayer (1),

Saturn Ashwini 6th House

They don’t have much of a childhood, they have responsibilities and a tight schedule from a young age. It may be simple chores around the house, or it child be dance, martial arts, survival. And in the 6th house it can certainly be about survival: don’t rock the boat, don’t poke the bear who is already angry. And Saturn is causing a vata imbalance so these folks  are all over the place, and they’re Scorpio natives so they are into everything. Discipline becomes a very powerful force in their lives, but it can be demanding a lot from children. They really have to be perfect; and a Scorpio native is anything but perfect. They can become good at hiding their problems, they are not likely to ask for help.

There is probably a lot of tension in the home, a kind of civi war, the neighbourhood is no better; just see normal activity like waking home or being home can be life threatening. It might also come to the child to be the adult and take care of mother (or parents). Poor neighbourhood, trouble in school, with thee police. Home can be so infested with criminals as to be a jail, perhaps a simmering civil war or even all out war in the homeland.

Saturn in Aries is very physical work and physical suffering in the 6th house. The 6th house is the stomach, so there will be trouble with digestion and probably poor breathing. There could also be trouble with the spine. Since fight or flight is triggered so often they might have hormonal imbalance, especially if Venus & Moon are also harmed in the chart. We might also think about the pineal in Aries, Thyroid in 3rd house & Thymus, immune system in 4th house, the heart, the lungs, the chest. Addictive tendencies can also come with this Saturn placement (drugs, alcohol, steroids, uppers, downers; they can be a little manic – depressive. They have a powerful will that can go about life despite great danger. But you don’t want to be their enemy because they can be very vengeful, when the time a place is right; and they can wait a long time, but that time will come. They can put equal energy into healing themselves through the gym, exercise, physical movement. High Vata & high pitta can make them disagreeable people, and their Scorpio nature can make them both physically and psychologically dangerous. They have a dark mentality. Disputes, litigating and divorce can drag out for a long time. Laziness and apathy can delay taking action to address the troubles in life, but once they do, they are sure to complete the mission successfully.

They can excel in physical activities like dance or martial arts, survival, military, sports. The body becomes too hard and wiry, arms like twisted steel cables, back and abs rippling with pure muscle. Like a thoroughbred (Ashwini), a sexual animal (Bharani), like a toy soldier (Krittika). Saturn is aspecting their sexual instincts in the 8th house giving them some caution and keeping them safe. Also aspecting the 12th house to keep them on their feet and pinch their toes a little bit. He also helps to bring some moksha since these natives are typically exhausted by the time they get to bed. Of course this also restricts their bed pleasure since they just go to sleep (but this depends on Jupiter and other 12th house influences His aspect on 3rd house gives them a fairly dry mentality, they are busy, they don’t have a lot of time. Their crew or team mates are all work related, to it helps working in teams, crew. Their narratives can be all about work and responsibility, duties, staying focused so you don’t die.

Property crime, property disputes, war. Home may be a ramshackle hut in any neighbouring place: the edge of town, the next town, the next country are all possible. The ground is likely rocky and infertile. May suffer poverty early in life, reform school or something like that. Possibly had to miss school to care for elder parents or go live with mother’s siblings. Can give a dirty criminal mind, steeped in blame and accusations. Criminal gangs are also possible. Divorces, illness, war, disagreements can drag out forever, unmoving; unchanging. Problems with throat and lungs. This position can stabilise the marital contract by resisting divorce through t he combination of fear of break up and loss of contract; but also fear of starting anything new. Home life is very spartan and deprived.

They have to be disciplined to carry out their rather aggressive enemies and obstacles. They almost literally have to move mountains. Health problems and almost constant physical pain and discomfort can drive them to work very hard to overcome. Chronic fatigue, laziness,

Females are not likely to have milk in their breast, no nourishment from a mother who is stuck in illness, imbalanced, toxic situations. There could be some kind confinement in the home. Very firm hard walls against enemies.

Ulysses S. Grant: He brought about union using a war of attrition in the Venus-Saturn-Jupiter period.

Hunter Schafer Rahu Saturn Jan 2012 – Dec 2014: Mars aspects Saturn. It was this period he was diagnosed with gender dysphoria. Saturn would give trouble to the parents, the mother, from school, probably police. Chronic fatigue, deep feelings of self doubt, perhaps self harm, fatigue, hormone imbalance. They ultimately feel some comfort in pain and suffering.

Hunter Biden:

Saturn in Bharani 6th House

 They don’t have much of a childhood, they have responsibilities and a tight schedule from a young age. It may be simple chores around the house, or it child be dance, martial arts, survival. And in the 6th house it can certainly be about survival: don’t rock the boat, don’t poke the bear who is already angry. They are constantly being pushed, insulted, shamed, poked, provoked, and challenged. And Saturn is causing a vata imbalance so these folks  are all over the place, and they’re Scorpio natives so they are into everything. Discipline becomes a very powerful force in their lives, but it can be demanding a lot from children. They really have to be perfect; and a Scorpio native is anything but perfect. They can become good at hiding their problems, they are not likely to ask for help. It doesn’t help that parents and siblings and even that close group of people they call their friends are all trying to pull them down. A rather catty group, sharp claws and knife in the back at any opportunity. It’s like being in a war zone, but since Venus & Mars are involved in the Nakshatra and the sign, it could be a battle of the sexes, a choreographed battle that happens over and over again. These peole can be really punishing on theri own body. They will likely be full of pain.

There is probably a lot of tension in the home, a kind of civi war, the neighbourhood is no better; just see normal activity like waking home or being home can be life threatening. It might also come to the child to be the adult and take care of mother (or parents). Poor neighbourhood, trouble in school, with thee police. Home can be so infested with criminals as to be a jail, perhaps a simmering civil war or even all out war in the homeland.

Saturn in Aries is very physical work and physical suffering in the 6th house. The 6th house is the stomach, so there will be trouble with digestion and probably poor breathing. There could also be trouble with the spine. Since fight or flight is triggered so often they might have hormonal imbalance, especially if Venus & Moon are also harmed in the chart. We might also think about the pineal in Aries, Thyroid in 3rd house & Thymus, immune system in 4th house, the heart, the lungs, the chest. Addictive tendencies can also come with this Saturn placement (drugs, alcohol, steroids, uppers, downers; they can be a little manic – depressive. They have a powerful will that can go about life despite great danger. But you don’t want to be their enemy because they can be very vengeful, when the time a place is right; and they can wait a long time, but that time will come. They can put equal energy into healing themselves through the gym, exercise, physical movement. High Vata & high pitta can make them disagreeable people, and their Scorpio nature can make them both physically and psychologically dangerous. They have a dark mentality. Disputes, litigating and divorce can drag out for a long time. Laziness and apathy can delay taking action to address the troubles in life, but once they do, they are sure to complete the mission successfully.

They can excel in physical activities like dance or martial arts, survival, military, sports. The body becomes too hard and wiry, arms like twisted steel cables, back and abs rippling with pure muscle. Like a thoroughbred (Ashwini), a sexual animal (Bharani), like a toy soldier (Krittika). Saturn is aspecting their sexual instincts in the 8th house giving them some caution and keeping them safe. Also aspecting the 12th house to keep them on their feet and pinch their toes a little bit. He also helps to bring some moksha since these natives are typically exhausted by the time they get to bed. Of course this also restricts their bed pleasure since they just go to sleep (but this depends on Jupiter and other 12th house influences His aspect on 3rd house gives them a fairly dry mentality, they are busy, they don’t have a lot of time. Their crew or team mates are all work related, to it helps working in teams, crew. Their narratives can be all about work and responsibility, duties, staying focused so you don’t die.

Poor collapsing home; broken home. Criminal mentality, criminal gangs, or younger brother may be a criminal. May have grown up with some criminality in the home. One may go to jail, or a group home or merely go to live with the sick or the exploited. Somehow will become stuck in a very long lasting dispute. They are often called to serve the less fortunate, trouble youth, or the criminal element. Lawyers, doctors, fighters will face problems with approval boards and associations.

It seems there might be a chance of blood poisoning or led poisoning. They will certainly have digestive issues. poor digestion and conception, always exhausted, pain stiffness, low back issues. Something along the line of fibromyalgia is possible, pain in the body. What ever the problems they face, they will be chronic, long breakup will bring the fear of death. They will be stuck in a cycle of blame and accusation. A long litigation is likely at some point.

We might note that with all the artists on the list who have this, it was the action of their brush stroke which was the key to their work like a dance, like martial art that communicates with gestures. A narrative of violence, crime, exploitation,

Gary Gilmore spent 18 of his first 36 years in prison. He was abandoned by his mother as a child and placed in foster care and orphanages. He was executed for his crimes.

Vincent van Gogh: Was shot in the stomach age ….

Bruce Lee was killed on set.

Jackson Pollock: Saturn Mahadasha

Jennifer Lopez: Saturn is aspected by Ketu. Mars in his own sign may be lifting this Saturn a little bit. She came from the Bronx. Her first boyfriend was a gangbanger who got her arrested after a shooting in a night club.

Felix von Luckner: Saturn conjunction Jupiter & Venus, aspected by Moon  Hemmed between Mars on one side and Sun Ketu conjunction on the other side. But Mars & Jupiter are making house exchange.

Saturn in Krittika 6th House

They don’t have much of a childhood, they have responsibilities and a tight schedule from a young age. It may be simple chores around the house, or it child be dance, martial arts, survival. And in the 6th house it can certainly be about survival: don’t rock the boat, don’t poke the bear who is already angry. And Saturn is causing a vata imbalance so these folks  are all over the place, and they’re Scorpio natives so they are into everything. Discipline becomes a very powerful force in their lives, but it can be demanding a lot from children. They really have to be perfect; and a Scorpio native is anything but perfect. They can become good at hiding their problems, they are not likely to ask for help.

There is probably a lot of tension in the home, a kind of civi war, the neighbourhood is no better; just see normal activity like waking home or being home can be life threatening. It might also come to the child to be the adult and take care of mother (or parents). Poor neighbourhood, trouble in school, with thee police. Home can be so infested with criminals as to be a jail, perhaps a simmering civil war or even all out war in the homeland.

Saturn in Aries is very physical work and physical suffering in the 6th house. The 6th house is the stomach, so there will be trouble with digestion and probably poor breathing. There could also be trouble with the spine. Since fight or flight is triggered so often they might have hormonal imbalance, especially if Venus & Moon are also harmed in the chart. We might also think about the pineal in Aries, Thyroid in 3rd house & Thymus, immune system in 4th house, the heart, the lungs, the chest. Addictive tendencies can also come with this Saturn placement (drugs, alcohol, steroids, uppers, downers; they can be a little manic – depressive. They have a powerful will that can go about life despite great danger. But you don’t want to be their enemy because they can be very vengeful, when the time a place is right; and they can wait a long time, but that time will come. They can put equal energy into healing themselves through the gym, exercise, physical movement. High Vata & high pitta can make them disagreeable people, and their Scorpio nature can make them both physically and psychologically dangerous. They have a dark mentality. Disputes, litigating and divorce can drag out for a long time. Laziness and apathy can delay taking action to address the troubles in life, but once they do, they are sure to complete the mission successfully.

They can excel in physical activities like dance or martial arts, survival, military, sports. The body becomes too hard and wiry, arms like twisted steel cables, back and abs rippling with pure muscle. Like a thoroughbred (Ashwini), a sexual animal (Bharani), like a toy soldier (Krittika). Saturn is aspecting their sexual instincts in the 8th house giving them some caution and keeping them safe. Also aspecting the 12th house to keep them on their feet and pinch their toes a little bit. He also helps to bring some moksha since these natives are typically exhausted by the time they get to bed. Of course this also restricts their bed pleasure since they just go to sleep (but this depends on Jupiter and other 12th house influences His aspect on 3rd house gives them a fairly dry mentality, they are busy, they don’t have a lot of time. Their crew or team mates are all work related, to it helps working in teams, crew. Their narratives can be all about work and responsibility, duties, staying focused so you don’t die.

Saturn in Aries 7th house

Ashwini – Bharani – Krittika
The Classics – Saturn in Aries 7th house
Rules the 4th and 5th houses for Libra ascendant. Yoga Karaka planet.

Phala Deepika Saturn in 7th house: “Gives an ugly wife, poverty, and misery to one who is always loitering.”

Jataka Bharnam Saturn in 7th house: “The native is weak bodied, suffers disease, earns livelihood by a lower standard, lives with low persons, and remains unhappy due to wife, house and wealth. Not auspicious for health of one’s wife, one lacks enthusiasm and gets disrespect from women, and one’s wife remains unhappy, disappointed, despaired. May loose business partnerships. But if Saturn is well-placed and influenced by benefics and lords of auspicious houses they profit from partnership, get a wife with clear uncomplicated thoughts and views.”

B.V. Raman Saturn in the 7th house: “The native will be under his wife’s control. She will be ugly and hunched back. He will have more than one marriage or will marry a widow or divorcee or someone advanced in age. He will be diplomatic and enterprising. He has residence abroad, a stable marriage and political success.”

Chamatkar Chintamani Saturn in the 7th house: “The native is denied a charming partner, able, faithful, helpful friends and wealth for a long time. Both husband and wife are always sick. Unhappy, want of enthusiasm, feeling small and nervous. Greedy. How can this native be influential and impressive. The native is a debauchee surrounded by wicked friends and wealth through fraud and dishonest means, strong craving, crazy, agitated. Can he be happy? He will have an ailing partner, neither strength nor wealth. Apathy, leanness, be susceptible to sickness and disease; of restless mind. A man of few words, blockheaded and dependent, unemployed, unsocial, unfortunate in respect to wife, home and wealth. Slighted by women and his second marriage with a vain and crippled girl or with the daughter of a friend. He is attached to despicable women, unhappy and deceitful. This Saturn indicates a late marriage with a steady, faithful, industrious, careful, thrifty, and practical partner, or one older than the native, sober and wealthy. Afflicted Saturn will cause much sorrow and grief, in the married life with death or indifference. There will be loss of wealth through contracts, partnerships, opponents, litigation, business enmities and treachery. Marriage partner may not be like-minded. Both partners will be of unsound body and mind. The native is a prostitute, debauchee, if in own or exalted sign. If conjunct Mars, the wife is very sexy. If with Venus the native himself is sexy and fond of other women. If in Aries Leo, Gemini, Cancer, Scorpio, Sagittarius or Pisces, a happy and successful family life. In Aries, slim and smart; hair, well set, pointed nose, long face, small eyes. Service after age 28, fortunate between 36 – 42 indicative of good progress.. If in Aries, Gemini, Leo, Sagittarius, Capricorn or Aquarius promises good education. Success as an advocate or Magistrate. Gain through contract, coal, iron, work in mines, expert if in Taurus, Virgo, Libra, Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces. If in Gemini Virgo, Sagittarius, or Pisces they might be a teacher, lecturer or reckoner. If In Gemini, Libra or Aquarius grants children at long interval. Good for business or service. This Saturn causes early death of the husband or wife; or long ailments. In Aries, Leo, Sagittarius, Gemini, Libra indicated the native is large-hearted, sensual, extravagant, short-tempered, generous, egoist, proud but loyal to his wife.”

BPHS 4th lord in the 7th house: “The native will be highly learned in various branches of knowledge, will be apt to leave paternal property, and will be akin to the dumb in an assembly. The native lacks the capacity of expressing his ideas and does not have greed for paternal property. He finds some other person, a brother perhaps, who can bear the responsibility.”

B.V. Raman 4th lord in the 7th house: “Generally happy. Will command houses and lands. Will eke out a livelihood in distant lands or close to birthplace depending on whether the 7th house has a fixed or a movable sign.”

BPHS 5th lord in the 7th house: “The native will be tolerant of all religions and be very religious oneself. They will be endowed with progenic happiness will always be helpful to others. In college they will develop an aptitude for the opposite sex and have love affairs. The native makes an effort in education up to Masters or Bachelor of Arts.”

B.V. Raman 5th lord in the 7th house: “If favourably disposed the natives sons live abroad and attain distinction wealth and fame. Or he will have a number of issues. He will also become renown, learned, prosperous, greatly devoted to his master and possess a charming personality. When the lord is afflicted there will be loss of children, one of whom will die abroad after achieving name and fame.”

Ashwini	Bharani	Krittika
Jacque Cousteau (navel officer, film maker (4)), Louis Pasteur (chemist, microbiologist (4)), Jim Caviezel (actor played Jesus (1)),	…….	Claudia Schiffer (1), Stephen Hawking (1),
Saturn 7th from Moon	Saturn 7th from Moon	Saturn 7th from Moon
Rob Ford (4), Hugh Armstrong Robinson (pilot, inventor, daredevil (4)), Nancy Pelosi (3),	Bruce Lee (martial arts actor (1)), Edward Norton (prison actor (1)), Bobby Hatfield (Righteous Brothers (3)), Clay Walker (country singer (1)), Felix von Luckner (nobleman, naval officer, author (1)), Mother Teresa (1),	Shannen Doherty (1),

Saturn in Ashwini 7th House

It might be tha they look out and see a world to by used and manipulated. The other

Jim Caviezel: He has adopted seven children from China.

Louis Pasteur: Saturn exchanging signs with Mars and also in mutual aspect with Mars. Father of five children

Jacque Cousteau (navel officer, oceanographer, film maker): Invented the aqua-lung, a self-contained system that allowed diver to go deeper for longer. “For most of history, man has had to fight nature to survive; in this century he is beginning to realize that, in order to survive, he must protect it.” “I was playing when I invented the aqualung. I think play is the most serious thing in the world.”

Saturn in Bharani 7th House

This yoga karaka Saturn can give long durable relationships, but would mostly be based on fear of being alone or loosing home, family, children. This Saturn influences people towards a more conservative view point; relationships that are bound by duty. A partner may be just for home and children and that’s it. Otherwise it can be a very dry relationships. Hardly a relationship at all really. It can be possessive without much real heart.

Men might suffer from some degree or impotence. They might also have a general fear of the other, a fear of going out into the world. Marriage often comes into their life much later. When they do, they will take their marriage vow very seriously and will likely have a great responsibility for a sick or mentally ill partner or child.

Mother Teresa: Saturn conjunction Rahu, aspected by Moon. She was far to insecure and afraid of relationships and had, of course, taken a vow of celibacy as a nun.

Saturn in Krittika 7th House

Can live for a long time with a terminal illness. Shannen Doherty developed breast cancer.

Saturn in Aries 8th house

Ashwini – Bharani – Krittika
The Classics – Saturn in Aries 8th house
Rules the 5th & 6th houses for Virgo ascendant.

Phala Deepika Saturn in 8th house: “Makes the native untidy and poverty stricken. He suffers from piles and starvation; is cruel minded and condemned by his own friends. Native develops neurotic troubles. Brings death from windy conditions (too much vata), or by dreadful fever like typhoid.”

Jataka Bharnam Saturn in 8th house: “Gives a person a weak body, suffering from diseases like ringworm, itching etc. is without fear, discontented and lethargic complaining of constipation and fearful of diseases of a private nature. Their right eye is weak and he has to suffer the loss of original capital in his trade. If no other malefic aspects this Saturn they will have a long span of life.”

B.V. Raman Saturn in the 8th house: “Gives good longevity but many responsibilities in life. The native will discharge his duties through sheer perseverance against all odds. He will have defective eyes, very few children, a paunch, and will seek the company of women from outside of his caste. He may have a predisposition to suffer from asthma, consumption and lung disorders. If afflicted, his children will cause him pain and grief. The native will be dishonest and cruel.”

Chamatkar Chintamani Saturn in the 8th house: “The native is denied the company of virtuous and lives with wicked men. Separation from own people, loss of wealth, ailing, finding fault with others. Far from being generous, he is very narrow minded. Himself being crooked, nobody can cheat him. If Saturn is in the 8th house the native suffers great loss of wealth. Sudden separation from own people, always perverse minded, very clever, scared of disease, ill-reputed, lazy, glutton, miserly, kind and timid, few children, weak sighted, loss of health and wealth. If Sun conjoins this Saturn the native is vicious, wounded and unfortunate. Discontented, boils and other skin troubles, poor health. Short lived with many disappointments. The native lives in a foreign land and being caught as a thief is punished and murdered by a mean fellow. There will be much sorrow, piles, poverty, cruel and his friends avoid him. Death in a foreign place due to heart trouble, cough, cholera, est.

If this Saturn is in Aries, the native dies of starvation; in Taurus of fasting; in Gemini from over-eating; In Cancer by hands of relatives; in Leo by enemies; in Virgo by TB; in Libra by psoriasis; in Scorpio suddenly; In Sagittarius of wounds; in Capricorn of horse fall or foot; in Aquarius by elephant; in Pisces of asses. The native is sober but bold and fearless and his sons will be cunning. The native lives until 75, poor, in service, contact with low caste women. Longevity and natural death if is Saturn is in his own sign or exalted; gain through marriage, business partnership or legacy is also possible. If debilitated or in an inimical sign: denies wealth from partners or from legacies; one is short lived, dies a slow lingering death due to chronic ailment and lives from hand to mouth. If in a water sign, death by drowning or fatal accident. Financial difficulties due to several restrictions. Unhappy dreams and death of father. Sometimes interested in occult. If in Taurus, Virgo, Aquarius, Sagittarius, Pisces or Gemini this Saturn is mostly unfavourable as its lordship will be a bad house. If in Aries, Leo, Libra, Scorpio, Capricorn; disappointments and sorrows through occupation, money, or progeny. In Cancer it grants both wealth and progeny. In Sagittarius there will be misfortune after marriage. This position of Saturn is not good but it keeps the native alert until his last breath. He will have fortune after his 36 year but if heavily afflicted it will cause imprisonment.”

BPHS 5th lord in the 8th house: “The native will have less progenic happiness, will be troubled by cough and pulmonary or respiratory disease, will be give to anger and devoid of happiness.”

B.V. Raman 5th lord in the 8th house: “Paternal property will be lost due to debts. There will be extinction of the family. The native will suffer from lung trouble. He will be peevish and unhappy, but not poor.”

BPHS 6th lord in the 8th house: “The native will be sickly, inimical to the learned and wise, will desire the wealth and wives of others and will be impure. Gives diseases that remain for the whole life of the native and ultimately become the cause of death. Conjunct the 8th lord and Saturn will be even more malefic. Vipreet raj can confer upon the native wealth prosperity and other auspicious effects.”

B.V. Raman 6th lord in the 8th house: “When fortified he will have middle life. When afflicted he will have plenty of debts and will suffer from loathsome diseases. He will hunt after women other than his own wife and take pleasure in inflicting pain on others.”

Ashwini	Bharani	Krittika
Craig Mathieson (polar explorer (1)), Peter Frost (sick priest (3)), Anne Heche Degeneres (3),	Franklin D. Roosevelt (1), Ted Cruz (3), Werner Von Braun (4), Alex Trebek (Jeopardy (3)), Neil Diamond (1), Morgan Spurlock (Super-size Me (4)), Princess Louise of Orleans (1),	Pavel Bure (hockey, Russian rocket (1)), Bernardine Dohrn Ayer (lawyer, explosives expert, militant communist (1))
Saturn 8th from Moon	Saturn 8th from Moon	Saturn 8th from Moon
Joseph Mengele (Dr Death: SS physician, experiments (4)), Clifford Olsen (serial killer (1)), Alice Bailey (Theosophical society (2)),	Stonewall Jackson (4), Ted Cruz (3), Antoni Gaudi (architect, designer (3)), Calamity Jane (1),	None

Saturn in Ashwini 8th House

Skeletons int he closet, dark secrets. Strong need to hide themselves. They many have experienced trauma that makes them disassociate themselves with who they were when the trauma happened.  As a survival mechanism they become someone else; they impose this other, stronger, identity over top of themselves, Possibly bi-polar. Sexual dysfunction, impotence, infertility, frigidity; but this can also go the other way and get a little freaky, secretive. Sex might be a tool of power and manipulation and they might know only too well how to objectify someone for the purpose of one’s own satisfaction.  With additional affection they are very likely to have experienced sexual abuse (possibly ongoing) from a young age,

May come from a blood clot in the brain. Mengele died from a stroke.

Joseph Mengele: Studied anthropology, hereditary illness and genetics leading the Nazi eugenics philosophy. The was obsessed with twins and physical abnormalities, especially dwarfs.  Saturn Mahadasha 1955 – 1974: lived in Bolivia & Brazil in this time. He was living mostly under an assumed name. His own son knew him as Uncle Fritz.

Clifford Olsen Saturn conjunction Ketu. He was diagnosed with a psychopathic personality, meaning he lacks empathy and is callous, glib, manipulative, shallow and violent. Researchers have found that psychopaths display abnormalities in white matter regions of the brain associated with learning from reward and punishment.They also displayed lower volumes of grey matter in parts of the brain connected to guilt, embarrassment, empathy and moral reasoning. Violent offenders who aren’t psychopaths are typically hotheaded and hyper responsive to threats while psychopaths are cold-hearted and calculating. Children with psychopathic tendencies tend to be unemotional, callous and disruptive. There was much call to bring back the death penalty just for him. Sept. 20, 2011 he died from Colon Cancer after a long bout with the illness. He had surgery as far back as 2004 and had underwent several rounds of chemo-therapy.  Rahu Saturn 1955 – 1958: Jupiter Saturn 1970 – 1973: Saturn Mahadasha 1984 – 2003: He was in prison by 1984 1997 parole hearing. His first after 15 years in prison under Canada’s Faint Hope Clause. In 2002 a TV movie focused on allegations that the RCMP had delayed arresting Olsen.    

Saturn in Bharani 8th House

Well concealed crimes brings much fear of being caught into their lives. They will have a debilitating fear of intimacy, just a little malefic aspect can have them forced and bound to have sex. Fear of forced penetration. Fear of death. Children are not expected to survive, strong possibility of still birth.

Morgan Spurlock: Saturn aspected by Sun, Jupiter, Venus, Mercury, Mars & Ketu. Wrote Super-size Me. Developed non-alcohol liver disease.

Princess Louise of Orleans: Jupiter conjunct Saturn. She was the second wife to the Prince of Spain caring for both the children of his diseased first wife, as well as their own 4 children. Saturn Mahadasha 1930 – 1949: The family was forced to flee from Spain after the King (her father-in-law) was overthrown and the Republic of Spain was declared in 1931. They didn’t return until after 1939 (probably 1940 Saturn Sun period) after Franco dissolved the Republic. He only son died fighting in the civil war in 1936 (Saturn Ketu period).

Saturn in Krittika 8th House

Gives knowledge of explosives, of how to put fire and steel together for catastrophic effect. Of course these kinds of duties are also closely guarded secrets. Their death may be celebrated for all the wrong reasons. Phineas P. Gage had an iron rod shoot up through his head while tamping some gunpowder in a hole while building the railroad. Although lacking formal education held a foreman position and was considered a kind, level-headed man before the accident. Afterwards, he became rude and obstinate and could not hold down a job. He became a kind of side-show freak.

Saturn in Aries 9th house

Ashwini – Bharani – Krittika
The Classics – Saturn in Aries 9th house
Rules 6th & 7th houses for Leo ascendant.

Phala Deepika Saturn in 9th house: “Deprives the person of good luck, wealth, children, father and religious merit. He is wicked besides.”

Jataka Bharnam Saturn in 9th house: “The native has faith in his religion and acts in conformity with it. His body is disabled, he is stupid or foolish but extremely beautiful. Enthusiastic towards religious traditions and unshakable faith in scriptural traditions. He is considered hard or stiff for not adapting a more flexible attitude; this makes them foolish. It gives feelings of pride and arrogance and causes loss of destiny. If this Saturn is debilitated, the wife remains diseased and sickly, and one will die of a windy disease, or paralysis all of a sudden.”

B.V. Raman Saturn in the 9th house: “He will lead a lonely life and may not marry. He will be well known for his valour on the battle field. Conjunct with the Sun can cause serious conflicts with his father as well as with his own children. He may suffer from growths or lumps in the stomach. Conjunct Mercury makes the native untruthful and deceitful though he may be wealthy. Thrifty in domestic life, somewhat irreligious, he may become a founder of a charitable institution.”

Chamatkar Chintamani Saturn in the 9th house: “The native is mentally seasoned, averse to lust and sensitivity. By disposition and practice he is not unpleasant to others, rather, he is gentle, attractive and lovely. Fond of Yogic Philosophy and follows it. Rajoguna predominant. Grief and sorrow through friends and relatives in misery. Dutiful to pull them out of their lot, or they renounce this world in a quest for the great spirit. They are always ready for pilgrimage to control sensuousness and distributes alms. He has a pure mind and is straight forward. In old age he becomes detached from worldly affairs and turns to yogic practices to attain salvation. The native is pious and virtuous. He has some physical deformity but is handsome. The 9th house is a trine which is synonymous with Saturn. The native is prosperous, soft, happy, and generous; blessed with sons, weak and perverse. Vicious unfortunate, poor, irreligious, absence of children and parents, reflective, subjugates the enemy. He is a trouble creator, conceited, passionate, sick, a cheat not sparring his own father, sensual, loss of power leaves him sick and infirm. The native is vainglorious, noble, distrust of both father and god. Unfortunate but religious. If Saturn is exalted or well aspected the native has lived well both in the past life and in the present one. If in its own sign, performs lord Shiva Yajanas, victor, possessing state seal and conveyances. The native gets an authoritative post, maintains the archives, tanks and temples for the common men in his 36th year; longevity to father if Saturn is in his own or exalted sign. Danger to father if it’s with a malefic or weak.

If Saturn is well posited in Libra, Capricorn, Aquarius, or Gemini the native has a scientific and philosophical bent of mind. By nature his is studious, meditative, investigating all that is hidden in the womb of the earth and above. He has an interest in Astrology, geology, archaeology, mineralogy, and metaphysics. A devoted religious spirit. If afflicted, it is unfavourable for voyages, travel and foreign affairs. Under Mars, madness or serious mental problems, their unawakened mind betrays every shade of stupidity, religious bigotry, loss through litigation, relatives by marriage, over-confident and slow to comprehend. This Saturn is favourable if in Aries, Gemini, Cancer, Leo, Scorpio, Sagittarius, Pisces and grants good fortune in the 36th year. Common man starts livelihood at 20, of status at 27. Growth of inherited wealth.

Love marriage with natives or foreigners. Good education. Favourable for teachers and lawyers. Sometimes good for independent business and step-mother. Good for younger brothers if in Cancer, Scorpio or Pisces.”

BPHS 6th lord in the 9th house: “The native will trade in wood and stones and confront many fluctuations in trade. Whenever the 6th and 9th houses are related in all way, rises and falls in fortune will be a frequent part of this natives destiny.”

B.V. Raman 6th lord in the 9th house: “If well-fortified, father becomes a judge. The maternal uncle becomes highly fortunate. There will be misunderstandings with one’s father. There will be benefits from cousins. If afflicted: poverty, sinful acts, misfortune through relatives, ungrateful towards preceptor and engagement in unrighteous deeds. If moderate affliction the native becomes a mason, timber merchant or stone cutter.”

BPHS 7th lord in the 9th house: “The native will have union with many women, be well disposed to his own wife and will initiate a number of deeds. There will come other marriages and sexual unions after the first marriage. Saturn or Sun debilitated here will bring great defame from sexual intercourse.”

B.V. Raman 7th lord in the 9th house: “If fortified, the native’s father lives abroad while the native also makes his fortune in foreign lands. He will attain an accomplished with who will enable him to lead a righteous life. If afflicted, the father may die early. Marriage partner will drag one off-course (away from dharma) and he may waste away his wealth and suffer penury.”

Ashwini	Bharani	Krittika
Pope Pius IX (2), Nancy Pelosi (3), Veruschka von Lehndorff (1), Clifford Olsen (serial killer (1)),	Dick Cheney (Vice President, Defence, Halliburton (1)), Antoni Gaudi (architect, designer (3)), Clay Walker? (1), Uma Thurman (actress (2)), Deva Premal (spiritual singer (1)), Marie-Soleil Tougas (TV host, killed in plane crash (2)),	Bob Dylan (1), Shannen Doherty (1),
Saturn 9th from Moon	Saturn 9th from Moon	Saturn 9th from Moon
L. Ron Hubbard (4), Rudolf Kempe (Opera Conductor (4)), Peter Frost (sick priest (3)), Matthew McConaughey (4), Ted Donato (hockey left wing (2)), Frank Abbandando (contract killer (4)), Anne Heche Degeneres (3),	Dore Hoyer (dancer (3)), Peter Paul Rubens (4), Baghdad (4),	Stephen Hawking (1), Alfred Elton van Vogt (science fiction (1)),

Saturn in Ashwini 9th House

They might truly believe that they are the law. While at the same time making laws which restrict freedoms. They can be extremely hypocritical. They usually espouse a conservative doctrine. They can be very rigid and dogmatic; unmoving in their faith. But in truth they are hypocrites who often suffer defame from improper relationships. On the other hand, if Venus is also afflicted they could suffer from impotency. Which is accompanied by a sense in personal deflation. They might have a life of constantly being called dumb, or ignorant.

Pope Pius IX:  Saturn Mahadasha 1827 – 1846: 1827: He was appointed Archbishop. 1828 he was moved to a nicer church and made a Cardinal. He was elected Pope months after the Saturn period ends.

Saturn in Bharani 9th House

Strict punitive father figures. They can have very dark beliefs and a distinct lack of faith beyond the sticks and stones world. Father figures are likely old and sick and one is likely to feel some responsibility to care for one’s father in old age. But father figure may also proposition improper sexual acts regardless of gender or age. The sense of guilt can be a powerful tool of manipulation, possibly utilised by the father or guru figures.

Dick Cheney: Saturn conjunction Jupiter, no aspects. Mars in own house. He had a heart attack or arterial blockage almost every major or minor Saturn period as the Saturn-Jupiter conjunction causes blockages and cholesterol affecting arterial flow. The 9th house is typically known as the house of blood pressure. With Saturn & Jupiter together this flow is being blocked by deposits of fat. His Sun is also in the 6th house. Moon Saturn dasha Oct 2018 – May 2020 sold his hone in 2019 for a loss of about $500 000 compared to what he paid for it.

Saturn in Krittika 9th House

The dark villain.

Bob Dylan fortune is lifted up by the power of the Saturn-Mars exchange. His fortune came from singing about broken hearts and fucked up relationships; selling his soul to the devil for a buck. This Saturn also sits heavily on his Moon giving the effect of a long slow emotional burn. And do doubt some scandalous relationships with younger women. But by this point the world will have come to expect nothing less from the late, great Bob Dylan.

Saturn in Aries 10th house

Ashwini – Bharani – Krittika
The Classics – Saturn in Aries 10th house
Rules 7th & 8th houses for Cancer ascendant.

Jataka Bharnam: “Saturn debilitated (or in enemy sign) in 10th house makes a person cruel, very thrifty, earning through very ordinary labour or service.”

Phala Deepika Saturn in 10th house: “The native will be a king or minister, or depend on agriculture. He will be brave wealthy and famous.”

Jataka Bharnam Saturn in 10th house: “Makes a prime minister of the kings court, exceptionally prudent, courteous and official manner, chief of villages, officer of cities, extremely clever dexterous and wealthy. They make slow progress in their career, lack happiness from father, perform religious celebrations with cheer and according with family tradition.”

B.V. Raman Saturn in the 10th house: “The native becomes a ruler or minister. He will be an agriculturist, brave, rich and famous. He will be dispassionate and work for the down-trodden masses. He will be judicious and work in the capacity of a judge. The native visits scared rivers and shines and becomes an aesthetic later in life. His career is marked by sudden elevations and depressions. If associated with the 8th lord in a malefic navamsha, the native gets a tyrannical superior officer.”

Chamatkar Chintamani Saturn in the 10th house: “The native gains a livelihood slowly, wins at war, misuses judicial and administrative powers when granted under the influence of this Saturn. Death of parents in childhood. Lives on goats milk and earns by his own hands. A hard life. A treasurer or judge with powers to do justice. Denied patrimony. Saturn dasha brings royal status, always happy, noble, honoured, affectionate. He will be a minister, curious, wise, and wealthy. If in Pisces he will be immoral and perverse with wicked sons, but takes Sanyas. If weak or in an enemy sign the native will be cruel and miserly, living by service, greedy and bilious, obstacles to work and progress. Maraka for father; trouble for mother. Gain and success through the body; conveyance and friends are denied. If influenced by benefics there will be success. Fortune after 36 if in a kendra, public service, social worker, capable to run government offices; many friends and much honour. A senior district officer. Interested in agriculture, a king or a minister, gallant, reputed. A discriminative and intelligent commander, affectionate and loyal attendants, maintains status in foreign lands, fearless and proud. The native goes for a holy dip at age 25.

“This Saturn indicates power, pride, ambition, and lust for material and worldly gain. If well aspected and positioned their perseverance and industry will ensure success. They might have slow progress, but they will gain by strength of character. A favourable Mercury influence indicates government officials, land surveyors, managers, lawyers, scientists, geologist, architecture, mining, engineers, and other employment which requires care, skill, diligence, patience and great effort over time.

“Affliction or unfavourable placement, denoted adversity after success; absence of opportunity. For businessmen there will be financial setbacks, dishonour to professionals, defeat to politicians through failure to gain popular support. Affliction from Mercury indicates menial labour or service positions like coal handler or gardener. Saturn in Aries, Leo, Sagittarius, Gemini, Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces gives favourable results; but not in other signs. Separation from parents is almost sure — death, adoption, travel, business conditions, change of vocation, setbacks or imprisonment — reason may be any. There is demotion, suspension, termination, imprisonment, and chronic diseases are familiar gifts under an afflicted Saturn. Father and son cannot progress under the same roof. If Saturn is in Aries, Leo, Sagittarius, or Gemini the native is a teacher, administrator, occult scientist. If in Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn, Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces, Libra and Aquarius he is a Sanyasi or a writer, astrologer or preacher. If in Aries, Leo, Sagittarius, Gemini, Cancer, Scorpio or Pisces the native might be a lawyer, advocate or senior judge. Trouble through family, sensual, reputation as both sexologist and vedantist.”

BPHS 7th lord in the 10th house: “The native’s wife will not remain under his control. The native himself will be religious and gifted with wealth and sons etc.”

B.V. Raman 7th lord in the 10th house: “The native will flourish in a profession abroad or his career might involve constant travelling. One will have a devoted and faithful partner who is also likely to be employed and contributing the family income, or be helpful to the natives career. If afflicted, the natives partner may be over-ambitious, but without sufficient capacity. Consequently, the natives career may suffer and deteriorate.”

BPHS 8th lord in the 10th house: “The native will not have paternal bliss, he will be a tale-bearer bereft of livelihood. If there is benefic aspect, these evils will not mature. The native may deal in scraps or dead things. Raja yoga can give work in life insurance or archeology, as well as work relates to coal, metal, minerals mined from beneath the earth.”

B.V. Raman 8th lord in the 10th house: “Penury and heavy debt will befall the native, misfortune will follow him at every step. If the 8th lord is weak or falls in the 6th, 8th or 12th navamsha the intensity of misfortune is reduced. If the 8th lord is severely afflicted, the native may suffer physical debility, disease, disfiguration, weak constitution and no bodily comfort. He will be the target of displeasure of superiors and trouble from government will cause worry.”

Ashwini	Bharani	Krittika
Al Pacino (Provocative roles (4)), Tucker Carlson (provocative journalism (3)), Phillip Adams (provocative journalist, author, film, broadcast (3)), Hugh Armstrong Robinson (pilot, inventor, daredevil (4)), Bradford Washburn (mountaineer, cartographer, museum director (3)), Tina Turner (singer (1)), Gillian Anderson (1), Chyna (1), Alice Bailey (2),	Bobby Hatfield (Righteous Brothers (3)), Melania Trump? (2), Peter Paul Rubens (4),	Michael Bloomberg (business, New York Mayor (1)), Muhammed Ali (1),
Saturn 10th from Moon	Saturn 10th from Moon	Saturn 10th from Moon
Ulysses S. Grant (3), Jacque Cousteau (4), Lupe Valez (1), Mariah Carey (1),	Ringo Starr (Beatles drummer (3)), James Joyce (Avant guard novelist, literary critic (1)), Lance Alworth (3), Martin Sheen (3), Dore Hoyer (dancer (3)),	Phineas P. Gage (1),

Saturn in Ashwini 10th House

May use a conspiracy to gain power unearned. Once they get leadership they will be there forever. Intensity hard workers, They will be married to their work, but will face many obstacles, self doubt, self-criticism, anxiety, over-work, over stressed, exhaustion. They will suffer greatly over their reputation which could be taking quite the nose dive after the expansive Jupiter dasha. They are likely to have digestive trouble, and since this is the 10th house there will be trouble with the skeletal system and knees. The anxiety is like to contribute to a tightening of the chest and breathing. Partner might also have health problems in Saturn periods. Due to 8th house ownership these people should avoid doing anything they don’t want the world to know about. The might be attacked by their enemies, reviled,

We should keep in mind that although this Saturn is in debilitation, it does not necessarily hurt their reputation. Saturn brings fear, anxiety and obstacles to test us. They become workaholics, probably a bit miserable to be around in this period due to their pessimism, but as long as they keep driving forward they will get through it. Al Pacino became known as a gangster in his Sun Saturn period,

Bold pioneering leaders who demands harsh discipline. They are not kind or easy leaders; they can be harsh and punitive. They can work very hard, sacrificing their health and themselves in pursuit of their career reputation objectives. But everyone suffers from their impatience with constant delays. It takes a long time for the world to take them seriously and they world hard to build a professional image.

Al Pacino: Ve-Sa (21 years old) Nov 1961 – Jan 1965: His mother died at the beginning of this period, and he had already been arrester during Ve Ju Su Sa on a weapons charge a year earlier. In the following Ve-Me period he joined the actors guild and attempted to change his life. Su Sa period they did the shooting for the Godfather and it was released. 15 March 1972. (Su Sa Ke Ra; the next day Jupiter gave him his fortune as a gangster). In Mo Sa (1979-1980) he played a lawyer defending a guilty judge as well as many innocent clients; he seek to balance justice, he followed that up with a movie as a detective working in the gay sub-culture trying to catch a serial killer. I was unable to find anything about his 1987-88 Ma Sa period, but in Rahu Saturn period he was in Donnie Brasco, Devil’s Advocate & Any Given Sunday. He was in 6 movies during Ju Sa period.

Tucker Carlson has Mars in Scorpio reversing this debilitation so although half the population considered him an ignorant religious fundamentalist for his conservative view; he has been one of the most watched programs on television. He was prime time all through his Jupiter Mahadasha. As soon as Saturn started, Apr. 24, 2023, he was fired from Fox News and sued for voicing his opinion on Twitter: breach of contract. The political left is on a full attack against Tucker and after such a nice Jupiter period, it may be a huge shock for him. Moon Saturn in 1976 is when his Mother left the family and he never saw her again.

Tucker Carlson: Yoga Karaka Mars is in Scorpio 5th house. This can lead to a big cash with established authority figures and leaders. Although they might tow the line for most of their lives, they will take a more independent turn later on in life. A sudden and unexpected change in their career. This can often be like starting over and it can be a long road to earn ones place back in the top spot.

Tina Turner Saturn Mahadasha July 1987 – July 2006 (age 47 – 67): Saturn conjunction Ketu. Depositor Mars is in exchange with Saturn alleviating the debilitation. She originally started her career with here partner Ike Turner, whose she eventually married, had a child with him, and adopted his two boys, while he adopted her other child with another man, She later moved to Europe to be closer to her second boyfriend  (It might be noted that Mars, Saturn & Jupiter are all in the 4th house from their own house.) When we consider this Saturn from the Moon perspective, we find it in the 12th house from the moon which takes here away. From the Moon, this Saturn is also Yog-karaka planet finding her fortune and her work far away from her home.

At 47 she was old to be doing what she was doing. But she was always sexy; she just had that appeal and that kind of charisma. Was she driven but a feeling of never doing enough, never good enough. She worked hard, was on the road almost continuously, she revealed the most intimate parts of her life.

Saturn in Bharani 10th House

They will have to work hard to build their reputation slowly over time, and they usually do not have a good reputation. They may have to bear a very difficult relationship; perhaps beauty and the beast type scenario. Secrets and scrutiny of leadership. They will be quite resistant to taking leadership roles. It’s likely that they may partake in illicit relationships in the workplace. Marriage relations will not be good. They will be underpaid and under appreciated in the workplace; long hours, hard work, likely causing stress and perhaps mental problems. Work may be labour, service,

Bold pioneering leaders who demands harsh discipline. They are not kind or easy leaders; they can be harsh and punitive. They can work very hard, sacrificing their health and themselves in pursuit of their career reputation objectives. But everyone suffers from their impatience with constant delays. It takes a long time for the world to take them seriously and they work hard to build a professional image.

Bobby Hatfield: Saturn conjunct Jupiter, aspected by Moon. His 2nd wife struggled with Lupus. Singer for the Righteous Brothers. “Unchained Melody,” & ‘You’ve lost that Loving Feeling.”. Died in his sleep after cocaine use caused a heart attack. Significant blockage of the coronary artery.  Saturn Mahadasha 1951 – 1970 (Age 11 – 30): In High School he was student body president 1957-58 (Saturn Ketu). Ha sang in the choir, played baseball and was even scouted for pro, but he went towards music. Graduated high school in 1958 and went to California State University. I suspect he studied music. He met his singing partner for the Righteous Brothers in University and (presumably after graduation in 1962, joined a band called the Paramours and they soon signed to a small record label (Saturn Moon). The band broke up in 1963 and Hatfield & Medley formed the Righteous Brothers (still Saturn Moon). His first son was born Aug. 27, 1964 (Saturn Mars). They also got their first #1 hit in 1964 with “You’ve Lost hat Loving Feeling.” Oct. 30, 1965 (Saturn Rahu) he marries the mother of his first son.  In 1965, he sang solo for the groups “Unchained Melody” (Probably Saturn Mars) In 1966 (Saturn Rahu) they switched record labels and had another hit with “You’re my Soul and Inspiration.” The Duo broke up in 1968 (Saturn Jupiter) but Hatfield kept the Righteous Brothers name and continued playing with a new partner, but they had mild success. He got into Television in 1969 in an old western (Saturn Jupiter).

Saturn in Krittika 10th House

Unexpected accidents and injuries at work. The work place is usually a dangerous area where anything can happen. They typically work with a partner in some way though they are typically considered “free agents” who call their own shots. Of course knee problems, or even deeper problems of the skeletal structure are likely to be apparent. With just a little more negative influence this position can have real explosive potential. Phineas P. Gage worked for the railway, with explosives and heavy iron. He is best known for an explosion that shot a steel rod up through his chin and right through his brain without killing him. The hospital had to dislodge it from his head, he survived, but became much more unruly and lost some of his memory. The went on the road as a side show afterwards as he was unable to maintain proper employment. Partnerships with low, crude, unruly people. One-to-one negotiations are public and the result is open, anything can happen; even death. This is the position of a hard labourer, military, a fighter, a killer, a mad-man.

Muhammed Ali: An elder of Bloomberg by one month, they potentially share the same ascendant and many chart commonalities.

Michael Bloomberg Saturn Mahadasha May 1982 – 2001 (age 40 – 59) Business, New York Mayor

Saturn in Aries 11th house

Ashwini – Bharani – Krittika
The Classics – Saturn in Ashwini 11th house
Rules 8th & 9th houses for Gemini ascendant.

Phala Deepika Saturn in 11th house: “Grants longevity, affluence, a regular source of good income. He is brave, free from sickness and has plenty of riches.”

Jataka Bharnam Saturn in 11th house: “The person has gain of income from black horses, blue sapphires, wool, elephants, etc. Saturn in 11th is extremely auspicious, making the native extremely wealthy, long lived, courageous, realising profits from projects, of fixed mind, free from illness; his trade and professional activities are always profitable. Not good for the happiness of getting a son.”

B.V. Raman Saturn in the 11th house: “The native earns by employing many people. He will have few friends, will be fond of enjoyment and will earn though government sources. He will have a long and healthy life and will be involved with politics commanding great respect.”

Chamatkar Chintamani Saturn in the 11th house: “The native with Saturn in the 11th house is always rich, long living, brave, cunning, firm in regard to wealth, health and mind, suffers from acute ailments only, offspring is short-lived, a manipulator. He has issues and is reputed, merciful, benevolent, soft & sweet, thin & lean, contented. He is endowed with black horse and blue sapphire, woollens, elephants, affluent, pleasure-seeker. He gets wealth through government and has plenty of attendants, agricultural land, and cattle wealth. He is contemplative, fortunate, faces many health problems from childhood, danger from fire. Learned in all the sciences, gets state honour and is immodest. Education from learned people, a family man, lives through handcraft.

“If in Libra, Capricorn, or Aquarius, the native is learned, fortunate and has conveyance. A well placed and aspected Saturn promises wealth and prosperity in the later half of life. He has a few sincere and faithful friends, unfavourable for progeny, partner may be barren or children fail to survive. Afflicted Saturn denotes trouble and loss through friends, loss from purity or advances. Affliction from luminaries or Mars denotes poverty. In a cardinal sign there will be ruin through acquaintances. Fixed signs brings delay and obstacles to gain. Common signs denote unsuccessful in ambition, unfavourable for marriage, relatives and superiors. This Saturn is favourable in Aries, Gemini, Cancer, Leo, Scorpio, Sagittarius, Pisces; in other signs it’s bad. Absence of progeny is seen if in Gemini, Leo, Sagittarius. Off-spring will be there if in other signs, but there may be trouble with sons. Most of life is full of struggle — it may be due to friends, family or anybody.”

BPHS 8th lord in the 11th house: “Devoid of wealth, miserable in boyhood, but happy later in life. If the 8th lord is conjunct a benefic they will be long lived.”

B.V. Raman 8th lord in the 11th house: “Elder brother may pass through a difficult time; relationship with him will be strained and troubled. Or the elder brother may cause anguish to the native and his family through his unscrupulous behaviour and conduct. Business may suffer losses and run into debts. If benefics have influence there will be trouble, but the native gets help from friends and older brother to overcome. Afflictions will aggravate the malefic results.”

BPHS 9th lord in the 11th house: “The native will have financial gains day by day, he will be devoted to teachers, virtuous and doer of charitable deeds.”

B.V. Raman 9th lord in the 11th house: “The native will be exceedingly rich and have powerful, influential friends. His father will be a well known and well-placed man. If afflicted, selfish friends will destroy one’s wealth through scheming and fraud.”

Ashwini	Bharani	Krittika
Prince Joachim of Denmark (Economics, Military Officer (4)), Joseph Mengele (Dr Death: SS physician, experiments (4)), David Eggers (writer (4)), Rob Ford (4), Patrice Alegre (serial killer (1)), Bixente Lizarazu (football/soccer, defense (3)),	Rutherford Hayes (Lawyer, military, President (2)), Alexander Fleming (biologist, penicillin (2)), Waldemar Rosler (illustrator, painter, lithographer (3)). Picasso (2), Vincent van Gogh (4), Darren Brown (4), Martin Flack? (2),	Alfred Elton van Vogt (1), Phineas P. Gage (railway boss, had a piece of iron shoot through is brain (1)), Elvis Stoijko (4),
Saturn 11th from Moon	Saturn 11th from Moon	Saturn 11th from Moon
Robert Bates (mountaineer, author, teacher (3)),	Franklin D. Roosevelt (1), Ghwen Stefani (1),	None

Saturn Ashwini 11th house

Unexpected, unearned gains by theft, or other illegal means. They might be beggars living from the state or they may have a patron keeping them alive.

David Eggers: Saturn conjunct Mars, aspected by Jupiter & Ketu. His elder sister studied Law at UCLA but killed herself shortly after his autobiographical book the family trials came out.

Patrice Alegre: Saturn conjunct Moon, aspected by Jupiter. Venus Saturn 1987 – 1990: Conducted at least seven brutal rapes and murders. He would often begin by trying to seduce them, but when they didn’t reciprocate rape and strangle them to death. His first victim was a co-worker on Feb. 21, 1989 (Venus Saturn Mars). Jan 25, 1990 another girl. He is also suspected of a Sept. 23 rape/murder.    Sun Saturn 1997: This was a manic period for him. In March he made a misstep and didn’’t kill the victim, allowing here to report the incident to police. On June 14 he offered his handyman services to a single mother in exchange for board: four days later he raped and strangled her. On September 4 he used the same ploy on another woman. On Nov. 2 he set the woman’s house on fire afterwards. He was arrested shortly after and charged with 6 counts of murder and 5 counts of rape. One psychologist put forward a theory of “displaced matricide” for his behaviour; it’s likely he suffered sexual abuse from his mother. He was certainly a psychopath and a malignant narcissist.  One can only imagine what he himself likely went through during his own Ketu Saturn dasha when he was only a child.

Saturn in Bharani 11th House

Will have a negative effect on friendships and one may be stabbed in the back or deceived by a friends. Friends will likely come from the underclasses, friends from work, old friends. Father can be a strong and unfair disciplinarian which may cause excessive bitterness.

Roosevelt died among friends while they were sitting to take a photograph.

Rutherford Hayes: His father was a storekeeper who died 10 weeks before Rutherford was born; his mother never remarried. His mother’s younger brother took became a father figure to him. Abolitionist President of the USA. The election he won was heavily contested. As promised, this Saturn did quite well for him since Mars is in his own 6th house. His friendships with blacks was not acceptable to the wider audience, but it’s also what got him elected. He was defending refugee slaves in court. Saturn Mahadasha December 1868 – December 1887: First Elected position was 1868 in Ohio state legislature. He fought for universal suffrage and the ratification of the 15th amendment in Ohio. President from 1877 – 1881 but due to the agreement made that awarded him the presidency he could not run for a second term. He sought to retire from public life in 1872. In 1873 stock panic, his uncle died and the family moved. Oct. 12, 1875 he was again elected as Governor of Ohio. He was later elected leader of the Federal Republican Party and ran in the 1876 election, but many irregularities and a close election forced the formation of an election commission to decide the fate of 20 districts. The ended up awarding all 20 to Hayes, elevating him to President on March 2, 1877, 04:10 by a margin of 185 – 184. Democrats never accepted the election results and he was referred to as ‘Rutherfraud’ for the next four years. July 1877, rail workers walked off the job trigger the Great railway strike. He sent the army in to quell the strike and bring order. He reformed the civil service by conduction exams for government positions rather than people being appointed based on political affiliation. It wasn’t until July 1878 that he was able to remove those appointed cilvil servant bosses who resisted the reform. Many Chinese were flooding into America at this time, and they were often blamed for the economic woes caused by the Panic of 1873 & The Great Railway Stick seemed to have given people an excuse to attack the Chinese. He also had to deal with several Indian uprising due to detrimental government policy and land use issues. September 1880, he began a 71 day tour of the Western USA. He kept the White House alcohol free and did not serve alcohol to guest. He declined to seek re-election in 1880.

Waldemar Rosler: Died of apparent suicide at age 37. He was a drafted into the war, worked as an administrative officer but did not support the nazis. It’s likely he tried to undermine them and may have been killed.

Vincent van Gogh: Probably bi-polar. He died by a self inflicted gunshot wound to the abdomen. It’s also possible that he was accidentally shot by a friend of his. His Sun Saturn period went from 1884 – 1885. This was an especially productive period for his art, though due to the dark somber tones it was not successful. It was likely in this period that he painted the “Potato Eaters.” This debilitated Saturn can give friends in low places. He had an older brother who was also given the name Vincent, but it was a still-birth.  1874 – 1877 was Venus Saturn Period. It began in the summer while he was living in London as an art dealer. He returned home after being rejected by his landladies daughter. His resentment for the material world was building and he was falling-out of favour with the art business which he felt commodified art too much. He got a job transfer to Paris, but was dismissed from his job soon after. He then took an unpaid teaching job but was not offered a paid

Saturn in Krittika 11th House

Phineas P. Gage had an iron rod shoot up through his head while tamping some gunpowder in a hole while building the railroad. Although lacking formal education held a foreman position and was considered a kind, level-headed man before the accident. Afterwards, he became rude and obstinate and could not hold down a job. He became a kind of side-show freak.

Saturn in Aries 12th house

Ashwini – Bharani – Krittika
The Classics – Saturn in Aries 12th house
Rules the 9th & 10 houses for Taurus ascendant. Yoga Karaka planet.

Karako Bhavo Nashto: When the karaka (or signifying agent) of a house is placed the house of his significations it destroys the results of that house. As Karaka for the 12th house, Saturn brings too much isolation and deprivation. May be related to depression or post-traumatic stress disorder.

Phala Deepika Saturn in 12th house: “Makes a person impudent, indigent, childless, disabled, stupid, defeated by his enemies.”

Jataka Bharnam Saturn in 12th house: “The person is merciless, extremely poor, unhappy because of expenses, effort, and expenditure. The person is lethargic and living in company of mean people. He is devoid of some bodily organ and deprived of all kinds of happiness. Poor eyesight, excitable temperament, miserable, dirty, wicked, devoid of wealth. One is often oppressed by own men or he is opposed to them.”

B.V. Raman Saturn in the 12th house: “The native will be dull-headed and lose all his money. He will have squint eyes, a deformed limb, make many enemies, suffer losses in trade, be a pessimist and commit sin in secret.”

BPHS 9th lord in the 12th house: “Will incur loss of fortunes, will always spend his money on auspicious acts and will become poor spending money to entertain guests. When Jupiter is here they will be very generous and spend much money with the desire to increase their fame. They spend lavishly on entertaining guests without care for finances.”

B.V. Raman 9th lord in the 12th house: “Gives a poor back-ground. The native will suffer much and have to work very hard in life; even then success will not come to him. He will be religious and noble but always in want. Father may die early leaving the native penniless.” Nirbhagya Yoga: 9th lord in the 6th, 8th or 12th house. “The person will lose all parental property such as lands, house etc. They will have no regard from good people and elders and will be irreligious, distressed, wearing old, worn out clothes, and will remain poor and miserable.”

BPHS 10th lord in the 12th house: “The native will spend in royal courts, or for the government, will have fear from enemies and be worried despite being skilful. Trouble from authority. This is especially the case for Scorpio ascendant.” [Taurus ascendant also puts Saturn in Debilitation.]

B.V. Raman 10th lord in the 12th house: “The native will have to work in far off places. He will lack comforts and face many difficulties in life. If beneficially disposed the native becomes a spiritual seeker. If afflicted by malefic he will be separated from his family and wander about without success. He may indulge in smuggling and other nefarious activities. Rahu afflicting the 10th lord will make him a cheat and a criminal. He causes sorrow to his family and relatives.”

Ashwini	Bharani	Krittika
Matthew McConaughey (actor (4)), Cate Blanchett (3), Mariah Carey (singer (1)), Lupe Valez (firecracker actress (1)), Helen Keller (deaf, blind author (2)), Chyna (female wrestler, bodybuilder (3)),	Bill Guerin (hockey (4)), Lance Alworth (3), Robert Buell (Rape & murder of children (3)), Ella Bleu Travolta (3), Jennifer Lopez (1), Ginger Rogers (4), Virginia Woolf (1),	None
Saturn 12th from Moon	Saturn 12th from Moon	Saturn 12th from Moon
Tucker Carlson (Provocative journalism (3)), David Eggers (writer (4)), Bradford Washburn (mountaineer, cartographer, museum director (3)), Louis Pasteur (chemist, microbiologist (4)), Ted Donato (hockey left wing (2)), Tina Turner (singer (1)), Hunter Schafer (transgender model actress (1)),	Werner Von Braun (4), Rutherford Hayes (Lawyer, military, President (2)), Waldemar Rosler (illustrator, painter, lithographer (3)). Princess Louise of Orleans (1),	Pavel Bure (hockey, Russian rocket (1)), Elvis Stoijko (4), Claudia Schiffer (1),

Saturn Ashwini 12th House

 This Saturn affects their faith and their career. In both cases it can be a heavy load to bear. They will need lots of time alone, away from everything for a long time. Even if they are wealthy they will want to go

They may carry a huge burden of responsibility, self doubt, exhaustion, post-traumatic stress. They might be afraid of being left alone. On a long pilgrimage or hiatus, but it could also be some time in prison or rehab; a very simple facility that might use novel approach, dance or art therapy; but ultimately, karma yoga, service will be the main means of seeking salvation. These natives can be good meditators if they don’t fall asleep. This Saturn can bring some laziness, it makes everything just a little bit more difficult. They might be like a pack horse carrying a bunch of crap around. Several go on expedition, mountain treks, pilgrimages that go on for 1000s of kilometres.

They might also work in a nursing home, prison, hostel or campground. It supports offering hard labour as service. They might travel disputed territory, hot, dry, few signs of life, desert places, dangerous places. There might be fear of abduction, getting stuck away from home, loosing oneself, or of getting lost. There will likely be some vata, some anxiety due to aspect on the 6th house: slow digestion, nervousness, coldness, hardness. This Saturn can give a hard restriction to expenditure, loss, liberation. There is not much freedom due to the constant duties that need to be done for work, which may be because the native spent the whole day daydreaming when they should have been working. But they can loose themselves in long repetitive movements, like walking 30km per day.

They might appear free and happy on the outside while harbouring deep subconscious fears which can be paralysing. Life can feel like being stuck in a nightmare. Mars aspect or influence can add antipsychotics or other powerful poisons and drugs. May be involved with providing transportation, logistics, communication, translation, in foreign or isolated places or for foreigners. May spend some time teaching or giving service overseas, but will likely show either fear or contempt to foreign cultures. Can bring a level of racism against the very outsiders they have to work with. They will likely face much trouble travelling

Hellen Keller: Saturn has only Rahu aspect. Deaf, blind author. No children. Saturn Mahadasha (1898 – 1917):

Lupe Valez killed her self by taking by taking sleeping pills. She has Mars in Pisces with both Saturn & Mars aspecting her 2nd house Mercury. Saturn Mahadasha birth – 1914 (till age 5): Mercury Saturn (1928  – 1931):   Ketu Saturn 1936:

Cate Blanchett: Venus Saturn in her late teens, early 20s she worked in a nursing home,

Ausha was kidnapped for several months causing a deep sense of post-traumatic stress that caused her to be hospitalised.

David Eggers: Parents both died of cancer one year apart when he was 21 forcing him to care for his younger brother.

Saturn in Bharani 12th House

There will be considerable resentment and likely some form of sexual abuse that causes these folks to withdraw from society. They might hold a deep seated resentment that holds them back in life. Foreign service, working long periods in isolation, or long travel for work are all possibilities.

Virginia Woolf: Was sexually assaulted by much her elder step brothers from the age of six.

Saturn in Krittika 12th House

They will be very hard workers. This is like the isolated lumber-jack; They fear the beast they have inside. Their isolation might include intense practices in the face of harsh internal criticism. Beaten down by the father step-father or perhaps the loss of a solid father figure. None-the-less, they do seem to have something to prove to their father in particular. Interesting that both Schiffer & Stoijko are both listed in the Pandora Papers as having hidden off shore accounts.

Claudia Schiffer is in Saturn Mahadasha from July 2009 – July 2028. She was discovered in a night club when she was young; one wonders if she had to “prove” how much she wanted the job. Father was a lawyer Loves long walks in the country side with her dogs.

Pavel Bure: Father was a professional swimmer. His father was also against him playing hockey because he was so bad at it; he had to work very hard to prove to his father that he could be a worthy hockey player. Parents separated when he was 12, but at age 20 he moved to North America with his Father & brother to try out for the NHL.

Elvis Stoijko: Competed in martial arts in his youth and then switched to figure skating. He married a Mexican figure skater and lived in Mexico for a little while, then they moved to a place near Toronto with 180 acres.

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